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Boozy
08-27-2004, 08:39 AM
If anyone wants to get in to a $40 buy-in Fantasy Football League we have 6 spots open, but the draft is this Sunday at 1:30 pm EDT.
Cus is handling the money. Please only sign up if you intend to pay.
It is Yahoo! League #259368 and the password is "Whore" (that should be easy enough for you to remember)
Boozy
08-28-2004, 06:44 AM
5 spots left. We're probably going to move the draft to a later date.
Tucker Max
08-29-2004, 02:35 PM
Also use this thread to discuss various draft decisions, teams, etc.
Boozy
08-29-2004, 02:38 PM
I deleted that league because it wouldn't let me change the draft date from today and we only had 6 teams...
If anyone wants to get another league going, I'd be down.
CdrTostada
08-29-2004, 05:59 PM
I am in a league, and I have a relatively good team. We are doing yahoo fantasy football. I forgot about the draft, but somehow i still got some pretty good picks. My QB is Peyton Manning, I have hines ward and Laveranues Coles for WRs. My main HB is charlie garner, which is ok, not great. And for defense I have the patriots, which is pretty good.
tupes007
08-30-2004, 09:26 AM
My squad turned out pretty decent this year, except in the receiver area. I made the best football decision of my life last year in chosing Priest Holmes, so naturally he was my franchise player. Other RB's are Marshall Faulk, Garner, and back burners Antowain and Emmit Smith. I've got McNabb, Maddox, and Brunell for QB's, Todd Heap and Daniel Graham for TE's, #1 kicker Vanderjaggs, and Dallas and NO defense. Not bad, but receivers hurt as such: Pinkston, Plaxi, and out favorite brat Terry Glenn. I'm still hedging trades with my arsenal of RB's.
Boozy if you're serious about getting a league together, I'd be down. I realize I'm not the average football junkie, having boobs and all, but I've been in a league for four years now, and even snatched up second place.
For he who grabbed New England D: very wise choice, lucky bastard. They were my first choice, but got grabbed up too early.
Anyone who may have drafted Shockey: play this player CAREFULLY. There's really no rhyme or reason to it, you kind of have to figure it out on your own, but get a feel for him. Most weeks he will do jack shit, but when he DOES do something it will be huge, and you will kick yourself for not playing him. Trust me I had him for two years. He's one of those iffy players you have to keep a close eye on. Very reminiscent of Jay Alstott in his day. With him you really have to strike when the iron's hot, and put him away when cold.
Chandler
08-30-2004, 09:31 AM
Just did a trade in my ESPN league, and wanted to get some feedback on it. I sent Santana Moss and Baltimore's D to a guy for Andre Johnson from Texas, KC defense, and Marc Bulger.
My team had only one QB, Jake Delhomme, and I was stacked at Defense (Miami and New England) and WR (Peerless Price, Joe Horn, and Laverneous Coles), so I figured I got what I needed, and didn't give up too much.
Thoughts? Feedback?
Boozy
08-30-2004, 09:31 AM
I realize I'm not the average football junkie, having boobs and all, but I've been in a league for four years now, and even snatched up second place......
.... Very reminiscent of Jay Alstott in his day. With him you really have to strike when the iron's hot, and put him away when cold.
You had me going right up until "Jay Alstott". All I could think about after that was "When is Tupes going to suck it up and post some titties.....?"
Boozy
08-30-2004, 09:36 AM
Thoughts? Feedback?
Sie erhielten im Esel wie einem schmutzigen milkmaid... gebumst
tupes007
08-30-2004, 09:37 AM
Trust me, you don't want to see preggo boobies. They are UNUSUALLY large, and all I can think of when I look at them is dairy products.
On topic: "Mike" Alstott was the same way. I had him my first year, and it was the same old shit: when you play him, nothing; when you finally take him out, he's running in TD's. It's aggravating, and Shockey will do the same to you.
Boozy
08-30-2004, 09:45 AM
On topic: Boobs/ Dairy Products.....Alstott was the same way...
First of all, that's fucking gross.
Secondly, which Alstott? "Jay" or Mike........?
Anyway, on-topic, if there is any interest I will start another league with a later draft date. Cus was handling the money before and I'm sure he'd do it again, so if there are people interested, and willing to paypal him the buy-in (probably $40), pm me. If I get 10 or so people I'll get a league going. Let me know...
Anti-Hero
09-01-2004, 02:29 PM
Just did a trade in my ESPN league, and wanted to get some feedback on it. I sent Santana Moss and Baltimore's D to a guy for Andre Johnson from Texas, KC defense, and Marc Bulger.
My team had only one QB, Jake Delhomme, and I was stacked at Defense (Miami and New England) and WR (Peerless Price, Joe Horn, and Laverneous Coles), so I figured I got what I needed, and didn't give up too much.
Thoughts? Feedback?
not a horrible trade. KCs defense couldn't be much worse than it was at the end of last year, but Miami's defense is going to be on the field all game long, all year long, from what it looks like. thankfully, you only need to play them once, if that. I'd actually start Bulger ahead of Delhomme, simply because St. Louis will put the ball in the air far more often than Carolina, with a better reciever corps that plays on turf.
Boozy
09-02-2004, 08:46 AM
Ok. We'll try this again.
Yahoo! League # 582387
Password: TMMB
Buy-in is 40$. Sign up only if you plan on paying. Top three teams will get paid. I'm going to have Cus handle the money. He has done it twice before and he is on the level.
The draft is next Wed. at 5:45 pm EDT but you can set up your autodraft if you aren't available.
Make sure you sign up for the free version. Yahoo! tries to direct you to Fantasy Football Plus! first, which you have to pay for.
EDIT: It is a head-to-head league.
DotNotFeather
09-02-2004, 09:12 PM
Hey guys...You'll have to excuse my ignorance. I am a fantasy football first timer and went into the draft horribly under prepared. If you would be so kind (or not), please give me some feedback on the picks I made. I don't really think I'm that happy with the team I have and could use some suggestions on what who my starters should be. I have a tentative starting lineup, but figured it couldn't hurt to put the question out there. Also, yes I know, drafting that many players from my favorite team was stupid. Here's what I have:
Donovan McNabb QB Philadelphia
Carson Palmer QB Cincinnati
Rich Gannon QB Oakland
Rudi Johnson RB Cincinnati
Tyrone Wheatley RB Oakland
Lee Suggs RB Cleveland
LJ smith TE Philadelphia
Kellen Winslow II TE Cleveland
Kevin Johnson WR Baltimore
Keyshawn Johnson WR Dallas
Rod Smith WR Denver
Marcus Robinson WR Minnesota
Tai Streets WR Detroit
Browns DEF/ST
Buffalo DEF/ST
Billy Cundiff K Dallas
Phil Dawson K Cleveland
Anti-Hero
09-03-2004, 12:15 AM
i'll assume you're running something like a 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 K, 1D setup
first off, if there's any starting running backs left as free agents, or reasonable backups ala Steven Jackson or Najeh Davenport, drop Rich Gannon and pick them up.
ifin it were me, i'd start:
McNabb
Rudi Johnson
Lee Suggs
Kevin Johnson
Rod Smith
Marcus Robinson(flex)
Kellen Winslow
Browns D
Phil Dawson
pm me if you want some more in-depth stuff, i'm also curious as to what's left on the free agent heap.
from the looks of your draft, you fell into the rookie trap of too many QBs and WRs, not nearly enough RBs. Winslow *should* be a good pickup at tight end, Tai Streets is dead weight, there should be far better options at reciever. Also, perhaps you can drop palmer too and pick up a better reserve QB.
razorsheldon
09-03-2004, 01:01 PM
Donovan McNabb QB Philadelphia
Carson Palmer QB Cincinnati
Rich Gannon QB Oakland
Rudi Johnson RB Cincinnati
Tyrone Wheatley RB Oakland
Lee Suggs RB Cleveland
LJ smith TE Philadelphia
Kellen Winslow II TE Cleveland
Kevin Johnson WR Baltimore
Keyshawn Johnson WR Dallas
Rod Smith WR Denver
Marcus Robinson WR Minnesota
Tai Streets WR Detroit
Browns DEF/ST
Buffalo DEF/ST
Billy Cundiff K Dallas
Phil Dawson K Cleveland
Sorry buddy, but this team wouldn't even make the playoffs in a 20 team league. If you're lucky, you can salvage it a bit through a few waiver pickups though. First off, drop:
Cundiff, Browns D, Streets, Smith. You can always pick up a backup DEF and K the day before your starter has a bye week. None of those guys are worth keeping though. You need to grab the sleeper RB/WRs early on to keep for the rest of the season.
I can't even guess who is available on your waiver wire, but names to look out for and grab are:
N. Burleson (Vikes) - He'll start opposite Moss week 1 and will be a good backup for your M. Robinson pick
C. Brown (Tenn) - I'm sure taken already, but try to trade for him. Use Suggs as trade bait. You're pretty weak at RB and that'll kill you later on. C. Brown should have a big season for his relative value at the moment.
A. Gates (SD) - Winslow is a gamble at TE but a decent pickup. Get Gates if available, as he could be the next Gonzalez.
D. Foster (CAR) - S. Davis is no guarantee to get all the carries. Foster is legit, and would be good to sit on in case you get lucky.
O. Smith (MIN) - Bennett will most likely be hurt 1/2 the year. Sit on this guy if possible. He'll be worth the wait, and after his suspension he'll get the carries over M. Williams.
B. Lloyd (SF) - He should be taken in your league, but if not get him instantly. He's good, and is the #1 WR for SF.
R. Williams (DET) - Has some serious potential, but only grab him if you have room.
Here's who you should start:
QB McNabb
RB R. Johnson
RB Suggs (Get C. Brown though)
WR R. Smith
WR Key. Johnson (need to upgrade WRs though)
TE Winslow
DEF Buffalo
K Dawson
Good luck
CdrTostada
09-03-2004, 02:32 PM
For he who grabbed New England D: very wise choice, lucky bastard. They were my first choice, but got grabbed up too early.
Actually the really sad thing is, I got New England D without being there for the draft, because I forgot about it. Plus, I had second to last pick, so somehow the other people in my league were just being stupid. Like last year when the guy who put the league together had first pick, he chose the buc's defense, worst decision ever.
Boozy
09-03-2004, 06:38 PM
Ok. We'll try this again.
Yahoo! League # 582387
Password: TMMB
Buy-in is 40$. Sign up only if you plan on paying. Top three teams will get paid. I'm going to have Cus handle the money. He has done it twice before and he is on the level.
The draft is next Wed. at 5:45 pm EDT but you can set up your autodraft if you aren't available.
Make sure you sign up for the free version. Yahoo! tries to direct you to Fantasy Football Plus! first, which you have to pay for.
EDIT: It is a head-to-head league.
Where are all the people who pm'd me? Sign up.
DotNotFeather
09-03-2004, 09:10 PM
Sorry buddy, but this team wouldn't even make the playoffs in a 20 team league. If you're lucky, you can salvage it a bit through a few waiver pickups though. First off, drop:
Made a few changes - what do you think? Only picked up James Jackson because I think he will soon be traded and a starter somewhere (hopefully).
Donovan McNabb - Starter
A.J. Feeley
Tim Rattay
Troy Hambrick
Rudi Johnson - Starter
Lee Suggs - Starter
Ty Wheatley
James Jackson
Nate Burleson
David Terrell
Kevin Johnson - Starter (at least for wk1 against CLE - some ill will there)
Keyshawn Johnson - Starter
Rod Smith - Starter
Kellen Winslow - Starter
L.J. Smith
D Browns - Starter
Phil Dawson - Starter
Thank you all for the advice, there are a lot of factors I forgot to/did not consider when it comes to fantasy football. Any more feedback would be appreciated.
Anti-Hero
09-04-2004, 12:26 AM
unless you have to set your lineup very early in the week, (i.e. monday or tuesday, yes, i know it's a thursday night opener), you might want to look around and see if Ty Wheatley will be the starting RB in Oakland. if so, you might want to dump Kevin Johnson from the starting lineup, unless recievers get ridiculous points in your league.
Beyond that, keep an eye on Hambrick in Arizona, as he may displace Emmitt Smith as the starter, which i'm sure Emmitt is absolutely thrilled about...
DotNotFeather
09-04-2004, 01:21 AM
unless you have to set your lineup very early in the week, (i.e. monday or tuesday, yes, i know it's a thursday night opener), you might want to look around and see if Ty Wheatley will be the starting RB in Oakland. if so, you might want to dump Kevin Johnson from the starting lineup, unless recievers get ridiculous points in your league.
Yeah I would, but it has the be 2RB's and 3WR's in the starting lineup. There's no flexibility on that in our league.
tupes007
09-06-2004, 10:10 PM
So I've been proposed a trade, and I'd like some feedback before I decide. I've mentioned I'm hurting in the receivers area, and as such I have been offered a Deion Branch in return for my coveted Vanderjagt. A receiver for a kicker is pretty decent, albeit it a decent receiver for a #1 kicker. My backup kicker is John Carney. Thoughts?
razorsheldon
09-07-2004, 10:16 AM
Kickers aren't as predictable as you might imagine. Sure, Vanderjagt is one of the best kickers in the league, however with Indy's explosive offense, his points might be limited to PATs rather than the coveted 40+ and 50+ FGs. Looking at the the past 2 years, here are the top kickers for pts.
2003:
Wilkens
Vanderjagt
Stover
Kasay
Elam
2002:
Feely
M. Gramatica
Carney
Akers
Janikowski
Notice there is zero consistency in the top 5 (Elam was #7 in 2002, and Vanderjagt was #12).
The trick is, the person you're trading with might not know this. Try to get a better receiver than Branch if possible. Check the draft history to get a good range, and good luck.
Boozy
09-07-2004, 11:23 AM
Ok. We'll try this again.
Yahoo! League # 582387
Password: TMMB
Buy-in is 40$. Sign up only if you plan on paying. Top three teams will get paid. I'm going to have Cus handle the money. He has done it twice before and he is on the level.
The draft is next Wed. at 5:45 pm EDT but you can set up your autodraft if you aren't available.
Make sure you sign up for the free version. Yahoo! tries to direct you to Fantasy Football Plus! first, which you have to pay for.
EDIT: It is a head-to-head league.
We need at least 4 more people for this league. If anyone is interested you should sign up, otherwise I'm canning it. Here is the link:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1
Sanku
09-07-2004, 04:54 PM
I registered as Poop.
I just drafted quite possibly my worst team ever. Fucking alcohol.
I'm going to need some serious help down the line to do anything. (btw, the eli manning pick was in the 18th out of 19 rounds, and he was used basically for the keeper rule)
Pennington, Chad QB NYJ
Alexander, Shaun RB SEA
George, Eddie RB DAL
Holt, Torry WR STL ARI
Price, Peerless WR ATL
Smith, Rod WR DEN
Longwell, Ryan K GB
Dolphins, DST DST MIA TEN 10 0
Johnson, Brad QB TB
Manning, Eli QB NYG
Faulk, Kevin RB NE
Shipp, Marcel RB ARI
Williams, Moe RB MIN
Zereoue, Amos RB OAK
El, Antwaan Randle WR
Hilliard, Ike WR NYG
Kennison, Eddie WR KC
Andersen, Morten
Jets, DST DST NYJ
Noonan003
09-07-2004, 05:31 PM
I feel that I made out pretty well in my league. Here is who I drafted-
QB's:
Donovan McNabb-Phi
Brad Johnson-TB
Jeff Garcia-Cle
WR's:
Chad Johnson-Cin
Koren Robinson-Sea
Ashley Lelie-Den
Derrick Mason-Ten
Charles Rogers-Det
RB's:
Shaun Alexander-Sea
Stephen Davis-Car
Charlie Garner-TB
TE:
Todd Heap-Bal
K:
Josh Brown-Sea
Def:
Dallas
Minnesota
After the draft I dropped Charlie Garner and picked up Chris Brown from Tennessee.
What I want is feedback on a trade that is going through right now. I traded
Chris Brown and Ashlei Lelie for Larry Fitzgerald and Kevin Jones. I was a little hesitant to take two rookies but I think that they will both be extremely good and effective players this year.
Sharts
09-07-2004, 06:32 PM
We've had the same 12-team league for four years now. We start the following:
2 RBs
2 WRs
1 Swing player (RB or WR)
1 TE
1 QB
1 K
1 D/ST
Below is who I drafted and where:
Round 1 Overall Pick 12 Marshall Faulk (RB STL)
Round 2 Overall Pick 13 Domanick Davis (RB HOU)
Round 3 Overall Pick 36 Michael Bennett (RB MIN)
Round 4 Overall Pick 37 Joe Horn (WR NO)
Round 5 Overall Pick 60 Brett Favre (QB GB)
Round 6 Overall Pick 61 Koren Robinson (WR SEA)
Round 7 Overall Pick 84 Marty Booker (WR MIA)
Round 8 Overall Pick 85 Randy McMichael (TE MIA)
Round 9 Overall Pick 108 Tyrone Wheatley (RB OAK)
Round 10 Overall Pick 109 Rich Gannon (QB OAK)
Round 11 Overall Pick 132 DST Cowboys (DST DAL)
Round 12 Overall Pick 133 David Terrell (WR CHI)
Round 13 Overall Pick 156 Sebastian Janikowski (K OAK)
Round 14 Overall Pick 157 Jimmy Kleinsasser (TE MIN)
Round 15 Overall Pick 180 DST Titans (DST TEN)
I am having a bit of buyers remorse with my first two picks (Faulk @12 and D. Davis @ 13). These following backs were also available at the time: Kevan Barlow (RB SF), Brian Westbrook (RB PHI), Travis Henry (RB BUF, Corey Dillon (RB NE), Stephen Davis (RB CAR) and Chris Brown (RB TEN).
Thoughts/suggestions on what I did? Should I have taken someone else other than Faulk or D. Davis with those first two picks? Do you like the picks (note Moss was gone at this point).
I like the fact I was able to nab Bennett with the 36th overall pick. If that fucker ever stays healthy, I have a nice 3 back rotation - plus picking up Wheatley, a potential starter with the 108th pick, seems to make me a little less wary of Bennett.
Obviously, I only have one real No. 1 wideout in Horn. This is a big weakness for me. And I was surprised I was able to nab Farve where I did.
Any other questions/comments or rips on this roster?
Boozy
09-07-2004, 07:00 PM
We need at least 4 more people for this league. If anyone is interested you should sign up, otherwise I'm canning it. Here is the link:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1
OK, we only need two more, but the draft is tomorrow afternoon. Sign up.
NuttMandu
09-08-2004, 04:02 AM
Anyone know any good scout sites? I used to use Sporting News alot but i sat out last season cause i was overseas and stuff's changed a bit in a season.
Xerxes
09-08-2004, 11:49 AM
I am having a bit of buyers remorse with my first two picks (Faulk @12 and D. Davis @ 13). These following backs were also available at the time: Kevan Barlow (RB SF), Brian Westbrook (RB PHI), Travis Henry (RB BUF, Corey Dillon (RB NE), Stephen Davis (RB CAR) and Chris Brown (RB TEN).
I would have personally taken Dillon and Davis. Faulk just doesn't seem that strong of a prospect this year. I also think you took Michael Bennett too high. He's injured and won't be starting this week, not to mention he will lose lots of goal-line, third-down, and other misc. carries to Moe Williams and Onterrio Smith. Bennett didn't go until the beginning of the 10th round in our draft, which we did live last night. (10 person league)
Here's my draft results, in draft round order. Note that the first two picks are Keepers from last year. I was 6th pick so I basically pick in the middle of each round (snake-style draft order). League format is: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR/TE, TE, K, DEF, 7 bench. Scoring is ESPN style if you know that.
1 Ahman Green
2 Daunte Culpepper
3 Rudi Johnson
4 Thomas Jones
5 Lavernaeus Coles
6 Javon Walker
7 Peter Warrick
8 Dante Hall
9 Drew Bennett
10 Dallas DEF
11 DeShaun Foster
12 Jake Plummer (I think I jumped the gun on him, trying to get a backup for Minnesota's Week 4 bye)
13 Desmond Clark
14 John Kasay
15 Najeh Davenport (Ahman insurance)
16 Paul Edinger (Will only hold until Week 3 when Kasay has a bye)
Only main regrets/questions: I think I may have taken Thomas Jones too early; I could have taken Steve Smith or Derek Mason in his place (as well as Santana Moss, Chris Chambers, and Joe Horn, none of whom I valued as much). With that pick I now don't have a true STUD WR, which was my problem last year as well. Whoops! I also may have taken Dante Hall too early but there wasn't anyone else on the board I wanted that I was worried about losing. Plus it sounds ilke the Chiefs want to put the ball in his hands a lot more. I also meant to take Deion Branch instead of Drew Bennett but screwed that one up due to the draft program... Otherwise I'm pretty satisfied with my draft.
razorsheldon
09-08-2004, 01:56 PM
Any other questions/comments or rips on this roster?
I think your first 2 picks were quite good considering 12 and 13 are tough this year, and w/ Moss gone, it wasn't worth a Harrison or Owens yet. A pre-season argument could be made for Barlow over Faulk, however he might be worth the gamble since he actually had a decent year last year and Barlow isn't 100% and neither is Beasley (who is one of the best FBs in the game).
Bennett is mighty questionable given his injuries and prior history. Since you already took Faulk, you're assuming a lot of risk on your squad w/ Bennett. As I'm sure you know, your format rewards a 3rd RB for the swing role. Only the amatuers start a WR there, and this is the biggest mistake you can make. A simple calculation of average fantasy points for all the players makes this quite clear.
I would have taken Chris Brown (or even CMart) w/ the 3rd pick if I were you and if he were available. He appears to be a horse, and though he's pure speculation at this point, I have a good feeling he'll produce some quality #'s for a 3rd RB. CMart is undervalued at the moment, and could be a steal given this valuation.
Lastly, your middle rounds are weak, but I like your DEF and K. Marty Booker in RD 6 seems insane, but I guess you never truly know. If Burleson or Roy Williams are still around, take a chance and dump the Titans DEF for either of them.
Chandler
09-09-2004, 04:32 AM
Late request for advice, I know, but I have a money league quandry.
Who should I start this week? Trent Green going against Denver, or Brett Favre against Carolina?
DotNotFeather
09-09-2004, 09:53 AM
What do you guys think? I have the Bills and Browns defenses. Trying to decide who to start. Bills are up against the JAGS - anyone know the outlook on the JAGS offense? I know the Browns are up against Lewis, but I think they'll be amply motivated after the raped them last year and Ogden is questionable. Also Raven's passing offense is anemic. I'm just not sure - any advice?
Chandler
09-09-2004, 10:02 AM
Jags have a healthy (for the moment) Fred Taylor. Leftwich isn't outstanding, but was streaky good last year.
The Browns, while not great, have always been steady on defense, and with the Ravens anemic offense, I'd go with them.
I have to say though, you fucked yourself in drafting defenses. Did you piss your league commish off or something?
JonnyC
09-09-2004, 10:31 AM
Michael Bennett is my second running back who I picked before it was announced he was going to be out 4 weeks. My options for his replacement this week are Moe Williams and Travis Henry. Who should I start? I've had Henry in the past and he's been good but he is also mildly hurt and only listed as probable. McGahee is ready to go for Buffalo might get a chunk of carries. Moe is somewhat overrated but can put up big numbers every once in a while and is the starting back this week. I'm thinking Moe for week 1 and see how Henry's injury and McGahee play out. What do you guys think?
Chandler
09-09-2004, 10:46 AM
You can play hunches and guesses all year long in fantasy and they won't win. If Williams is starting, and your only other option is Henry, I'd go with Williams. Henry is going up against Jax, and Williams is against Dallas, which works in Henry's favor, but that injury and McGahee's great preseason would worry me with that lineup you have.
DotNotFeather
09-09-2004, 10:50 AM
I have to say though, you fucked yourself in drafting defenses. Did you piss your league commish off or something?
This is my first year doing fantasy football - I think I just made a lot of Rookie mistakes. By the time I got around to picking defenses I kinda of just yelled out the Bills - a lot of the defenses were taken at the time.
razorsheldon
09-09-2004, 10:57 AM
You can play hunches and guesses all year long in fantasy and they won't win. If Williams is starting, and your only other option is Henry, I'd go with Williams. Henry is going up against Jax, and Williams is against Dallas, which works in Henry's favor, but that injury and McGahee's great preseason would worry me with that lineup you have.
I totally disagree with this. Playing matchups and field advantages (i.e. hunches and guesses) is how you can help win your league.
McGahee is confirmed to be the backup heading into week 1... Henry is the go-to. Also, Williams will start, but Onterrio Smith should split carries or possibly have even more against a tough Dallas DEF. The only way Williams will get some pts. is if one of the Vikings gets stopped inside the 3.
Then again, you know you're getting around 2.5 yds per carry from Henry, but he'll probably see the endzone once or twice.
Start Henry this week, but you'll probably get some good numbers out of Williams once Onterrio's suspension begins and with Bennett still out in week 2.
Who would you start? Eric Moulds against a mediocre Jacksonville secondary, or Kevin Johnson against the team that dissed him?
Thewood07
09-11-2004, 12:35 AM
What do you guys think? I have the Bills and Browns defenses. Trying to decide who to start. Bills are up against the JAGS - anyone know the outlook on the JAGS offense? I know the Browns are up against Lewis, but I think they'll be amply motivated after the raped them last year and Ogden is questionable. Also Raven's passing offense is anemic. I'm just not sure - any advice?
Well this is a hard spot. Buffalo will be good on the Def. side, but I wouldn't look for turnover points seeing as thats their worst category every year. You failed to add the Jamal Lewis factor and him not hitting over 100yrds on the browns would be and incredible feat. If you get more points based on the score then I would go with Buffalo against the fresh Jags offense.
dafunky
09-12-2004, 03:10 AM
I'm a fantasy football first timer too. I pretty much used the pre-rankings but then put Vic and Owens at the top because I figured they would be better this year. This is who I ended up getting, if anyone has any suggestions it would be helpful because I have almost no idea what the fuck I'm doing.
QB M. Vick (Atl - QB)
WR T. OwensP (Phi - WR)
WR J. Smith (Jac - WR)
WR Ke. Johnson (Dal - WR)
RB S. Davis (Car - RB)
RB B. Westbrook (Phi - RB)
TE R. McMichael (Mia - TE)
BN C. Brown (Ten - RB)
BN D. Bennett (Ten - WR)
BN M. RobinsonQ (Min - WR)
BN J. Plummer (Den - QB)
BN De. ClarkP (Chi - TE)
K J. Brown (Sea - K)
DEF Oakland (Oak - DEF)
BN Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF)
Hawaiian Samurai
09-12-2004, 04:15 AM
Here's my lineup.
QB C. Pennington (NYJ - QB)
WR E. Moulds (Buf - WR)
WR L. Coles (Was - WR)
WR T. HoltQ (StL - WR)
RB J. Lewis (Bal - RB)
RB Q. Griffin (Den - RB)
TE T. Gonzalez (KC - TE)
WR/RB M. Faulk (StL - RB)
I traded LaDainian Tomlinson for Torry Holt and Quentin Griffin. I figured I could give him up since I didn't have a go to WR. I picked up Wheatley, Brandon Lloyd, and Steven Jackson out of the free agent pool. The rest of my bench is Javon Walker, Gannon, and Favre.
sachi3
09-12-2004, 03:45 PM
yea, Curtis Martin with a blast from the past. He alone got me 30 pts, hopefully he can keep up the performance close to that level for the rest of the season.
Considering i went with harrison and owens in first 2rounds, and picked up chris brown and martin as rbs, i hope it works out.
Hawaiian Samurai
09-12-2004, 04:07 PM
Alexander went down with a sprained knee. He made a cutback and went down without making contact with anybody. Pick up Maurice Morris NOW. I'm willing to bet that Alexander is done for the season.
Jahed
09-12-2004, 05:08 PM
Alexander went down with a sprained knee. He made a cutback and went down without making contact with anybody. Pick up Maurice Morris NOW. I'm willing to bet that Alexander is done for the season.
That basically ruined my season too. I have plenty of RB's, but Shaun Alexander was my go-to guy.
QB - Steve Mcnair
WR - Joe Horn
WR - Derrick Mason
WR - Rod Smith
RB - Domanick Davis
RB - Marshall Faulk
TE - Kellen Winslow Jr.
K - David Akers
DEF - Carolina
BNCH - Stephen Jackson
BN - Brian Westbrook
BN - Jeff Garcia
BN - Shaun Alexander (down after making cuts against air)
BN - Lamar Gordon
BN - Koren Robinson
DotNotFeather
09-12-2004, 09:53 PM
All I need is 11 more passing yards to Rod Smith to win for the week - Unfortunately Plummer think he's ambidextrious all of a sudden. Damn it!
Skrilla Hawk
09-12-2004, 09:57 PM
In my league, I traded Hines Ward and Emmit Smith for Thomas Jones. What do y'all think of this trade on its face, not knowing any of the other players on my team?
Thewood07
09-12-2004, 10:20 PM
I think thats ridicules unless you have 2 other go to wide outs. I mean Hines is a machine on the field. I mean today he ammassed 110 yards on 7 catches and Emmit even looked like the old Emmit today(which im not sticking up for him because he should be in a wheelchair and is going to become useless). So I personally think that trade sucked ass. Jones is unproven so far esp. on the Bears O-line, to Hines a #1 legitamit fantasy reciever. Neg. points on that one. So who is the rest of your team?
RedMafia
09-13-2004, 02:15 AM
My team...
P. Manning (Ind - QB)
D. Mason (Ten - WR)
I. Bruce (StL - WR)
P. Price (Atl - WR)
J. Lewis (Bal - RB)
B. Westbrook (Phi - RB)
B. Franks (GB - TE)
D. Staley (Pit - RB)
R. Smith (Den - WR)
Ke. Johnson (Bal - WR)
O. Smith (Min - RB)
D. Brees (SD - QB)
D. Akers (Phi - K)
Miami (Mia - DEF)
Green Bay (GB - DEF)
I think I did alright with the 9th pick for the draft I was in. I was thinking of maybe trying to get another QB instead of Brees but it is slim pickings, with the two numb nuts from Miami being about the best out there.
JoeyHustle
09-13-2004, 03:02 PM
I just lost Charles Rogers to his injured vagina, I mean broken collarbone, so I need help in picking a new 4th reciever on my fantasy team. Your choices are:
Brandon Stokley (IND)
David Terrell (CHI)
Cedrick Wilson (SF)
Reche Caldwell (SD)
Do not tell me who else you think would be good. My league is big and WRs are dried up. This is the best of what's available. Awaiting your oh-so-intelligent input! Tootles
PS- I am especially looking at you here Nils, you have a brainwave tuned into ESPN
timeforbeer
09-13-2004, 03:54 PM
Your choices are:
Brandon Stokley (IND)
David Terrell (CHI)
Cedrick Wilson (SF)
Reche Caldwell (SD)
Do not tell me who else you think would be good. My league is big and WRs are dried up. This is the best of what's available.
Tough call. Stokley's the only one with a decent QB throwing to him, but he'll see less looks than Harrison and Wayne.
Cedrick Wilson is the best choice of a bad bunch, especially if he gets more passes thrown his way than Brandon Lloyd. Chicago and SD will probably be more run-oriented than SF over the course of the season.
DietCokehead
09-13-2004, 03:56 PM
Brandon Stokley (IND)
David Terrell (CHI)
Cedrick Wilson (SF)
Reche Caldwell (SD)
Terrell is Chicago's #1 WR and #2 option, after Thomas Jones. I like him over Wilson. Stokley is the Colts' #4 or 5 option, and probably isn't a reliable starter. I'm still not sold at all on SF or SD, in terms of their ability to consistently produce.
Terrell looked good, even in a terrible game for the Bears. I picked him up before Week 1, and I only like him better now.
Note: The Bears might be run-oriented, but expect them to be playing from behind a lot again this year, which will net more touches for the wide-outs. The threat of the run will keep opposing D's at least somewhat honest. Until Kevan Barlow shows something, the same can't be said of SF.
Anti-Hero
09-13-2004, 03:58 PM
I just lost Charles Rogers to his injured vagina, I mean broken collarbone, so I need help in picking a new 4th reciever on my fantasy team. Your choices are:
Brandon Stokley (IND)
David Terrell (CHI)
Cedrick Wilson (SF)
Reche Caldwell (SD)
Do not tell me who else you think would be good. My league is big and WRs are dried up. This is the best of what's available. Awaiting your oh-so-intelligent input! Tootles
PS- I am especially looking at you here Nils, you have a brainwave tuned into ESPN
Hey, Douchebag, you might think you're being funny or cute by asking for our oh-so-intelligent input. You're not.
That being said, out of those four, Stokley is the only really viable option, as he has a proven QB throwing to him. Take my oh-so-intelligent input for what it's worth, or feel free to flame me, it matters not to me.
RedMafia
09-13-2004, 03:59 PM
I would go for Wilson or Stokley.
Wilson is pretty much SF's main WR so at least you know he will get throw to alot. Also since SF sucks so much I am sure during the latter part of the 3rd quarter and all of the 4th they are going to be behind and throwing openly.
Stokley, simply because he's on the colts who always are good to run up the score.
Cadwell is a no go because SD is going to run the ball into the ground. Above all else SD is a running team that passes occasionally.
Terrell, well..his quarterback is Rex Grossman. A guy who couldn't even lead his team to victory over a team that hasn't won a road game in 4 years.
CdrTostada
09-13-2004, 05:58 PM
Right now im down by 26 points and I have one more player to go, and its a wide reciever. Its Javon Walker from green bay, Im just hoping he and Favre can hook up for a few big ones and a touch down or two so I can get those 27 points i need to win.
I have picked up 4 new players today though for next week, I dropped charlie garner because he is horrible and picked up ontario smith who had a really good game this week. And I dropped my backup QB, Plummer and picked up testaverde. I also picked up Terrell from chicago. Im hoping this picks will turn out good, I just cant decide whether I want to start manning or testaverde next week. Manning looked a little questionable against the pats and is going up aginst the titans, who aret half bad, and testaverde is up against the browns, so Im still not sure yet, any suggestions?
JoeyHustle
09-13-2004, 06:07 PM
Hey, Douchebag, you might think you're being funny or cute by asking for our oh-so-intelligent input. You're not.
That being said, out of those four, Stokley is the only really viable option, as he has a proven QB throwing to him. Take my oh-so-intelligent input for what it's worth, or feel free to flame me, it matters not to me.
Terrell was chosen. I agree that it is better to bank on a 2nd offensive option on a bad team than to roll the dice on a third or fourth option on a good team.
And "Douchebag"? Exactly how long have you been around here, Anti-Homo? Someone clue fucknuts in on who he's talking to. I'll belittle your intelligence all I want to. I hope you're fat and lonely so I can treat you like I treated Roshkoch.
DotNotFeather
09-13-2004, 11:48 PM
Despite my HORRIBLE draft - I actually ended up doing quite well in week1. This was mostly due to McNabb and the Browns D allowing me to pull out a 94 - 92 win in my debut FF matchup. I am still very unsure about who to sit and who to start, so now that we have been through one week here is my roster...
Last Week's Starters:
McNabb, Donovan QB PHI
Johnson, Rudi RB CIN
Wheatley, Tyrone RB OAK
Burleson, Nate WR MIN
Johnson, Keyshawn WR DAL
Smith, Rod WR DEN
Winslow, Kellen TE CLE
Dawson, Phil K CLE
Browns, DST DST CLE
Reserves:
Rattay, Tim QB SF
Hambrick, Troy RB ARI
Jackson, James RB CLE
Johnson, Kevin WR BAL
Terrell, David WR CHI
Smith, L.J. TE PHI
Bills, DST DST BUF
Suggs, Lee RB CLE
I know I did a TERRIBLE job of drafting running backs - I am going to drop James Jackson and Hambrick and pick up Rhodes from Indy and Cedrick Wilson from SF (to use as possible trade bait with someone else for whoever had Smith and Rogers and get a #2 back). Unfortunately I had Terrell but sat him week1 - I want to somehow get him into the lineup in week2, thinking I'll sit Burleson. Ill be starting Suggs or Rhodes week2 instead of Wheatley. But I'm not 100% sure of what config. of RB's/WR's to go with. I HAVE to have 2RB's and 3WR's - there is no flex. Again - would appreciate any advice on who to start/sit/keep/drop/add. Thanks.
DotNotFeather
09-13-2004, 11:53 PM
Right now im down by 26 points and I have one more player to go, and its a wide reciever. Its Javon Walker from green bay, Im just hoping he and Favre can hook up for a few big ones and a touch down or two so I can get those 27 points i need to win.
I have picked up 4 new players today though for next week, I dropped charlie garner because he is horrible and picked up ontario smith who had a really good game this week. And I dropped my backup QB, Plummer and picked up testaverde. I also picked up Terrell from chicago. Im hoping this picks will turn out good, I just cant decide whether I want to start manning or testaverde next week. Manning looked a little questionable against the pats and is going up aginst the titans, who aret half bad, and testaverde is up against the browns, so Im still not sure yet, any suggestions?
I personally think it's just a matter of time before Testaverde has his breakdown - you know it's coming, just not when. Also, I think O. Smith has 2/3 more weeks of starting before he is possibly suspended for 4wks by the NFL, but this is just a possibility and should serve you well until (IF) he gets suspended. - Just something to keep in mind though.
DietCokehead
09-14-2004, 01:07 AM
Manning looked a little questionable against the pats and is going up aginst the titans, who aret half bad, and testaverde is up against the browns, so Im still not sure yet, any suggestions?
You're an idiot if you sit Manning at all this season, other than his bye week. Period.
The mantra of fantasy football: Always start your studs.
SkiGuy
09-14-2004, 01:34 AM
I was first a bit nervous with some of my picks, but things went rather well for me this week:
QB Tom Brady, NE QB Ind
RB Shaun Alexander, Sea RB
RB Thomas Jones, Chi RB
WR Chad Johnson, Cin WR
WR Amani Toomer, NYG WR
WR/TE Tony Gonzalez, KC TE
D/ST Rams D/ST, StL D/ST
K Adam Vinatieri, NE K
TOTAL POINTS (this week): 122
TEAM BENCH
SLOT BENCH OPP STATUS PTS
Bench Marc Bulger, StL QB
Bench Michael Bennett*, Min RB
Bench Rod Gardner, Was WR
Bench Steelers D/ST, Pit D/ST
Bench Drew Bennett, Ten WR
Bench Alge Crumpler, Atl TE
Bench Justin Gage
I think the key for me will be rotating in some of the injured bench players a bit once they get healthy.
Ryan Leaf
09-14-2004, 06:19 AM
Steve Smith just fucked me up big time. FUCK.
Anti-Hero
09-14-2004, 10:05 AM
Terrell was chosen. I agree that it is better to bank on a 2nd offensive option on a bad team than to roll the dice on a third or fourth option on a good team.
And "Douchebag"? Exactly how long have you been around here, Anti-Homo? Someone clue fucknuts in on who he's talking to. I'll belittle your intelligence all I want to. I hope you're fat and lonely so I can treat you like I treated Roshkoch.
Please, wave your big intarweb cock around some more. Oh nos! Someone is going to say mean things to me on a message board?!?!? whatevar will i do...
you're the one asking for advice here assclown. if you're directing the oh-so-intelligent comments to someone in particular, try doing a more direct job of it next time.
as for who 'fucknuts' here is talking to, i rightly don't give a fuck who you are. currently, you are merely one of the millions of mouth-breating fuckwits on a message board. I assure you, it is very likely that very few people really do give half a shit that you 'burned' Roshkoch on the old board. i know i don't.
once again, flame away, and beat your intarweb cock some more...
BrianH
09-14-2004, 10:40 AM
Somewhat misguided post.
Perhaps you haven't read the rules to this place, but what sets this particular messageboard apart from all others is the name at the top, "Tucker Max". More to the point, "Tucker Max and Friends". All other considerations are secondary.
That said, Joey is one of the original posters of this board and, for a time, gave Tucker a free place to live. In fact, the name "Joey Hustle" was given to him by Tucker in an Austin bar.
If you are going to call out one of the old, established members of this board, I can only recommend that you do it in a more clever fashion. "Intarweb" isn't even remotely funny, yet you type it repeatedly. And instead of editing the stupidity of your original "call-out", you added yet more hackneyed nonsense to the end of it.
Tread lightly.
Thewood07
09-14-2004, 11:13 AM
My bad Donotfeather glad you did'nt take my advice about the Browns D, I really never saw that one coming. I still can't believe Charles is out again with a broken collar bone...and then joey decides to tear his groin for 6 weeks, and Eddie George my backup running back for Shaun Alexander saw practically 0 action against the Vikes....and thus concludes my fantasy season....boo
bct34
09-14-2004, 01:01 PM
Here's how I came out on draft day:
Starters:
Tom Brady QB, NE
Priest Homes RB, KC
Corey Dillon RB, NE
Keyshawn Johnson WR, DAL
Laveraneus Coles WR, WAS
Boo Williams TE, NO
Jason Elam K, DEN
Eagles DEF
Bench:
Jake Plummer QB, DEN
Marcel Shipp RB, ARI (On waivers for Onterrio Smith)
Marty Booker WR, MIA
Jason Witten TE, DAL
Jason Hansen K, DET
Raiders DEF
I'd like to get rid of Booker and pick up a free agent because of the QB situation in Miami. Probably try and shop around for a better TE. Other than that I'm looking pretty good until all my players get hurt.
Xerxes
09-14-2004, 01:07 PM
Okay my turn to ask for some advice...
I need another more consistant wide receiver and here are the available players I think are viable:
Terry Glenn
Kelly Campbell
Antonio Bryant
David Givens
Kelly Washington
We have 1pt per 10 yards, 6pts for a receiving TD. I just picked up Cedric Wilson yesterday, but I have room for another WR on my bench.. I'd like someone with some good potential that I can play as a consistent producer or possibly trade.
I already have:
Laverneaus Coles - Supposedly a solid WR but did nothing this week
Javon Walker - He's hit or miss, but I like him
Peter Warrick - I got my 8 fantasy points out of him. Not great but acceptable
Cedric Wilson - Just grabbed him
Drew Bennett - Meant to draft Deion Branch over him but had a SW glitch...
We can play 3 WRs at a time (or 2 WR, 2 TE). Only decent TE available now is Desmond Clark, who I just dropped in favor of Daniel Graham. I figure if Clark doesn't get any touches against a subpar team in Detroit, he's not likely to get many all year. The Bears offense seemed to be either run it with Jones, or throw it to Terrell, who I'd highly recommend anyone pick up if he's available in your league (he was drafted in mine).
KMatt
09-14-2004, 02:14 PM
Probably try and shop around for a better TE.
Unless you get Gonzo or Heap or maybe Shockey or Winslow, I wouldn't move Boo Williams. The only reason he isn't touted as high is because noone knows what he will really do with a full season of playing time. Once the NO offense gets going a little bit, Boo will start performing. He was a huge pickup for me last year as Heap's performance dwindled a bit down the stretch.
bct34
09-14-2004, 02:34 PM
Unless you get Gonzo or Heap or maybe Shockey or Winslow, I wouldn't move Boo Williams. The only reason he isn't touted as high is because noone knows what he will really do with a full season of playing time. Once the NO offense gets going a little bit, Boo will start performing. He was a huge pickup for me last year as Heap's performance dwindled a bit down the stretch.
Yeah, I am pretty much just thinking idealistically. I am a little worried about Ernie Conwell being back in the mix, but if NO's offense does step it up, i think both players will be getting good looks.
OK, I have a custom league. Last week, I ended up scoring 214 Points which was the 2nd most points in my league. I am open to any criticism or suggestions. I would like to trade Brad Johnson and someone else for a better QB in the league, so if anyone has anything that I should offer for a better QB just tell me who and why.
Starters:
QB T. Brady (NE - QB) @Ari
QB B. Johnson (TB - QB) Sea
WR S. Moss (NYJ - WR) @SD
WR A. Toomer (NYG - WR) Was
WR D. Givens (NE - WR) @Ari
WR E. Moulds (Buf - WR) @Oak
RB P. Holmes (KC - RB) Car
RB R. Johnson (Cin - RB) Mia
RB T. HenryDTD (Buf - RB) @Oak
TE A. Gates (SD - TE) NYJ
K J. Kasay (Car - K) @KC
DEF Kansas City (KC - DEF) Car
Bench:
BN T. Jones (Chi - RB) @GB
BN M. Alstott (TB - RB) Sea
BN I. Mili (Sea - TE) @TB
BN R. Dayne (NYG - RB) Was
BN D. Brees (SD - QB) NYJ
BN D. Gabriel (Oak - WR) Buf
BN Minnesota (Min - DEF) @Phi
carreira
09-14-2004, 03:33 PM
I hate fantasy football. I also hate Mike Sherman.
I was elated with the team I drafted, and have successfully become the first defending champion in my league, to lose on opening week.
My team is as follows. (12-team league)
QB Marc Bulger
WR Marvin Harrison
WR Laverneus Coles
WR Jimmy Smith
RB Edgerrin James
RB Tiki Barber
TE Boo Williams
K Ryan Longwell
Tampa Def
Bench Larry Fitzgerald
Bench Josh McCown
Bench Willie Green
Bench Tatum Bell (just in case)
Bench David Terrell
Alright, now I need to know what you guys think of the waiver-wire running backs. Dayne got scooped up at the end of the draft, so I have no handcuff for Tiki. Did I screw myself over with my bench, or do I still have a chance to succeed in my 12-man points league?
Oh. GO CARDS!!!
DotNotFeather
09-14-2004, 10:09 PM
Here's my Starting Lineup and Reserves.....Who should I start???
Player Next
STARTERS:
McNabb, Donovan QB PHI @MIN
Johnson, Rudi RB CIN @MIA
Wheatley, Tyrone RB OAK @BUF
Clayton, Michael WR TB @SEA
Smith, Rod WR DEN @JAC
Terrell, David WR CHI @GB
Winslow, Kellen TE CLE @DAL
Dawson, Phil K CLE @DAL
Browns, DST DST CLE @DAL
RESERVES:
Rattay, Tim QB SF @NO
Rhodes, Dominic RB IND @TEN
Burleson, Nate WR MIN @PHI
Johnson, Keyshawn WR DAL @CLE
Wilson, Cedrick WR SF @NO
Smith, L.J. TE PHI @MIN
Bills, DST DST BUF @OAK
Suggs, Lee RB CLE @DAL
Amanda
09-15-2004, 12:11 AM
I'd like some advice too, please. Here's my starting lineup for week #1:
QB: Michael Vick
RB 1: Ahman Green
RB 2: Stephen Davis
WR 1: Joe Horn
WR 2: Jimmy Smith
TE: Todd Heap
PK: Jason Elam
Def: Ravens
I ended up winning the game, but not by nearly as much as I should have. My question is this: I have Onterrio Smith as one of my backups, as well as the Tennessee D. Davis and Baltimore did absolutely nothing for me this week, and I can't decide if that was an anomoly or if I ought to give some thought to replacing them for this upcoming week. With Bennett and Williams both hurt for Minnesota, Smith is looking pretty attractive. But at the end of the day, isn't Davis the better back? And as for the D, Tennessee is playing Indy, while the Ravens are playing Pittsburgh. It'd be better to just give Baltimore another shot, yes?
My league has pretty standard scoring: 6 pts/TD (rushing, receiving or passing), 1 pt/25 yards rushing or receiving, 1 pt/50 yds passing. Nothing fancy.
TenderBranson
09-15-2004, 12:42 AM
With Bennett and Williams both hurt for Minnesota, Smith is looking pretty attractive. But at the end of the day, isn't Davis the better back? And as for the D, Tennessee is playing Indy, while the Ravens are playing Pittsburgh. It'd be better to just give Baltimore another shot, yes?
While I think most people would generally agree that Davis is the better back, Smith should strongly be considered for action this week. You KNOW Smith is getting the majority of the carries this week, unlike Davis, who splits some carries with Foster. Also, when thinking about the offense in general, Smith plays in what could be THE best offense in the league this year, which means less defenders in the box, the recievers in Minny keep the defense honest, and with Steve Smith out and Muhammed as Carolina's number one receiever, Davis is going to see 8 in the box on a pretty regular basis.
If I was in your position, I would start Smith, but I think he will pretty much be feast or famine. On the other hand, I think Davis is the safer bet, but with a much lower ceiling.
timeforbeer
09-15-2004, 12:50 AM
I need another more consistant wide receiver and here are the available players I think are viable:
Terry Glenn
Kelly Campbell
Antonio Bryant
David Givens
Kelly Washington
We have 1pt per 10 yards, 6pts for a receiving TD.
I really like Antonio Bryant out of this group. Vinny T is statuesque, but if the Dallas O-line keeps up the good protection, Bryant will be a worthy fill-in. He's got young legs, and you have to figure he'll be stretching the field for Keyshawn's underneath routes.
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Amanda - Maybe they're missing Boulware a little more than folks expected, but stick with Baltimore's D for now. Tenn's D vs Indy isn't a good matchup to make such an early move.
I'd stick with Davis for now, too.
DrunkenDonkey
09-15-2004, 01:06 AM
Allright folks - who should my Number 2 back be this week?
Kevin Jones v. HOU
Kevin Barlow v. NO
or Lamar Gordon v. CIN?
Scoring (TD/6pt, 10yds/1pt, Fumble/-2pt, no bonus)
Anti-Hero
09-15-2004, 09:02 AM
Allright folks - who should my Number 2 back be this week?
Kevin Jones v. HOU
Kevin Barlow v. NO
or Lamar Gordon v. CIN?
Scoring (TD/6pt, 10yds/1pt, Fumble/-2pt, no bonus)
Barlow against the Saints. Alexander ran on them pretty well on a slightly gimpy knee. Granted Seattle has a far better O-Line than San Francisco, but Barlow should be good for 100 and a score or so.
srm775
09-15-2004, 09:38 AM
Here's how I came out on draft day:
Starters:
Tom Brady QB, NE
Priest Homes RB, KC
Corey Dillon RB, NE
Keyshawn Johnson WR, DAL
Laveraneus Coles WR, WAS
Boo Williams TE, NO
Jason Elam K, DEN
Eagles DEF
Bench:
Jake Plummer QB, DEN
Marcel Shipp RB, ARI (On waivers for Onterrio Smith)
Marty Booker WR, MIA
Jason Witten TE, DAL
Jason Hansen K, DET
Raiders DEF
I'd like to get rid of Booker and pick up a free agent because of the QB situation in Miami. Probably try and shop around for a better TE. Other than that I'm looking pretty good until all my players get hurt.
Team looks pretty good, but am I reading it right that you dropped O. Smith and picked up Shipp? Did you not see that he rushed for 75 yards and received for 65 yards last week? Also, I wouldn't drop Booker just yet. He's really good at running the 5-10 yard screens and small dump passes. I'd bet that with an aweful running game and a QB controversy, he'll see a lot of those plays.
srm775
09-15-2004, 09:54 AM
Here's my Starting Lineup and Reserves.....Who should I start???
Player Next
STARTERS:
McNabb, Donovan QB PHI @MIN
Johnson, Rudi RB CIN @MIA
Wheatley, Tyrone RB OAK @BUF
Clayton, Michael WR TB @SEA
Smith, Rod WR DEN @JAC
Terrell, David WR CHI @GB
Winslow, Kellen TE CLE @DAL
Dawson, Phil K CLE @DAL
Browns, DST DST CLE @DAL
RESERVES:
Rattay, Tim QB SF @NO
Rhodes, Dominic RB IND @TEN
Burleson, Nate WR MIN @PHI
Johnson, Keyshawn WR DAL @CLE
Wilson, Cedrick WR SF @NO
Smith, L.J. TE PHI @MIN
Bills, DST DST BUF @OAK
Suggs, Lee RB CLE @DAL
I hope you're playing in a 15 team (or more) league. I'd go:
McNabb
R. Johnson
K. Johnson
R. Smith
D. Terrell
N. Burleson (if you can start 4 WR and not have to start two backs, otherwise go with Wheatley, but don't look for him to get much against Buf. def)
K. Winslow
Bills Def
Lee Suggs will see very little, if any, playing time this week because of his injury. Clayton might not be bad, but only because there isn't an expected "glut of receivers" for TB. If M. Robinson is still available, grab him. I'd look for him to have a good year this year playing opposite Moss.
JoeyHustle
09-15-2004, 10:37 AM
Edgerrin James is my #1 RB
Should I start Onterrio Smith or Rudi Johnson as my #2 next week? I am leaning to Johnson because Miami really blows the bottlenose and he should have big holes to run through. But . . . Smith did have a breakout week last week even though he plays Philly this week. Picks?
Also- Some subs I am considering: Robert Ferguson (GB, vs. Chi) or Chris Chambers (Mia, vs Cin) worth putting in for Keyshawn Johnson? I don't trust Key for some reason . . . should I play him over one of those 2 this week?
razorsheldon
09-15-2004, 11:19 AM
Edgerrin James is my #1 RB
Should I start Onterrio Smith or Rudi Johnson as my #2 next week? I am leaning to Johnson because Miami really blows the bottlenose and he should have big holes to run through. But . . . Smith did have a breakout week last week even though he plays Philly this week. Picks?
Also- Some subs I am considering: Robert Ferguson (GB, vs. Chi) or Chris Chambers (Mia, vs Cin) worth putting in for Keyshawn Johnson? I don't trust Key for some reason . . . should I play him over one of those 2 this week?
Your first question is a tough one. While Onterrio Smith is a very talented back and will see the majority of action vs. Philly, I see the Vikings offense primarily relying on Culpepper and Moss during this game. Smith might get close to 100 yds, but I don't think he'll see the endzone.
I think Rudi Johnson will get more points overall this week, but its the equivalent of pocket 7's going all in against A, K suited... it could go either way.
For your second question, definitely stick w/ Keyshawn. His personality sucks and he won't win any congeniality awards, but he's finally with a system (and coach) that accentuates his talent, and he is a much better overall player than Chambers or Ferguson.
bct34
09-15-2004, 12:09 PM
Team looks pretty good, but am I reading it right that you dropped O. Smith and picked up Shipp? Did you not see that he rushed for 75 yards and received for 65 yards last week? Also, I wouldn't drop Booker just yet. He's really good at running the 5-10 yard screens and small dump passes. I'd bet that with an aweful running game and a QB controversy, he'll see a lot of those plays.
Sorry if you misread that, I am dropping Shipp and trying to get Onterrio Smith, who should post solid numbers for at least the next couple of weeks. This key for since Dillon is on a bye for Week 3. Hopefully I pick him up but I have a shitty spot on the waiver list, #9. Anyway, if I really was dropping Onterrio to pick up Shipp, I would invite all of you to punch me in the face.
Xerxes
09-15-2004, 12:20 PM
I really like Antonio Bryant out of this group. Vinny T is statuesque, but if the Dallas O-line keeps up the good protection, Bryant will be a worthy fill-in. He's got young legs, and you have to figure he'll be stretching the field for Keyshawn's underneath routes.
Thanks for the response. I actually picked up Terry Glenn yesterday but I might pick up Bryant as well if I can free up another roster spot...
bct34
09-15-2004, 12:25 PM
Ok, Week 2 DST, who should it be?
1. Eagle's D v. Vikings
2. Radier's D v. Bills
I'm leaning towards the Raiders, what do you think?
JoeyHustle
09-15-2004, 01:09 PM
Ok, Week 2 DST, who should it be?
1. Eagle's D v. Vikings
2. Radier's D v. Bills
I'm leaning towards the Raiders, what do you think?
I think that carrying 2 D's is a waste of a roster spot. Free agency exists to fill bye week spots. That being said, Raiders. Too much offense on both sides in the other game.
DrunkenDonkey
09-15-2004, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the response. I actually picked up Terry Glenn yesterday but I might pick up Bryant as well if I can free up another roster spot...
As it was aforementioned, drop your D or Special Teams. You can pick them up on whatever bye week you have.
... this might be a little harder if you're in a 16 team league, but so be it.
bct34
09-15-2004, 01:36 PM
I think that carrying 2 D's is a waste of a roster spot. Free agency exists to fill bye week spots. That being said, Raiders. Too much offense on both sides in the other game.
I agree with you about carrying more than one DST and I usually drop one after my primary DST has their bye week. Eagles bye is week 5, so I might as well hold on to both right now. I like to wait and see how my roster pans out for a few games before I start changing things up.
Ok, anyone else, Eagles DST or Raiders DST?
razorsheldon
09-15-2004, 01:53 PM
As it was aforementioned, drop your D or Special Teams. You can pick them up on whatever bye week you have.
... this might be a little harder if you're in a 16 team league, but so be it.
This could be a costly strategy. Way too often you see people stack their WRs at 5 or 6 deep hoping to catch a Boldin or Chambers. The problem with this is your top 2 are almost always who you start save the bye week here or there, and you have guys on your bench that do nothing. How are you going to predict a McCardell game of 3 TDs by benching a Chad Johnson or Joe Horn in the process? It doesn't happen!
You assume a much greater risk in having 1 mediocre/bad DEF (or Kicker) to be stuck with all year.
Take DEF. Assuming your standard scoring, last year, the top 5 DEFs ranged from 224 total fantasy points to 182, and the top 10 ranged from 224 to 150. After averaging these out over the 16 weeks, if you had a top 5 DEF you could expect 12.5 pts. per game, and 11.1 for a top 10 DEF.
Looking at DEFs 6 - 25, you would average 8.2 pts. p/g and 11-25 would be only 7.7 pts. 5 pts. per game is a HUGE margin to toss out the window in a head-to-head league.
In the first few weeks of the season, you'll see who the DEFs are that really pressure the QB. This is how you generate turnovers, force fumbles, and hopefully score TDs. Turnovers also can help reduce pts. allowed by keeping the ball out of the other team's hands (sorry for the Madden-like obviousness there).
Stack up 2 good DEFs (watch for the Redskins DEF this year) and wait 'til midseason to make sure you're in the top 10 instead of the bottom third.
The same goes for kickers (none of the top 5 kickers last year were in the top 5 the year before)
assmilk
09-15-2004, 02:11 PM
Im also new to Fantasy Football and was wondering how my team looked and if anyone had any suggestions for me.
Last week I lost by 4.75 pts mainly cause my WR's (S. Moss, J. McCareins, J. Walker) didnt put up shit for points. I also started Manning instead of Brady. So I switched them around since Indy is going up against Ten this week and NE is going up against Ari.
QB T. Brady (NE - QB)
WR S. Moss (NYJ - WR)
WR T. Glenn (Dal - WR)
RB R. Johnson (Cin - RB)
RB L. Gordon (Mia - RB)
TE A. Gates (SD - TE)
WR/RB J. McCareins (NYJ - WR)
BN A. Bryant (Dal - WR)
BN T. Jones (Chi - RB)
BN J. Walker (GB - WR)
BN P. Manning (Ind - QB)
BN Da. Clark (Ind - TE)
BN Re. Williams (Jac - WR)
BN R. Gardner (Was - WR)
BN T. Fisher (GB - RB)
K J. Brown (Sea - K)
DEF New England (NE - DEF)
BN Denver (Den - DEF)
DB A. Harris (GB - DB)
DL N. Barnett (GB - DL)
BN E. Brown (Hou - DB)
BN K. Bulluck (Ten - DL)
Xerxes
09-15-2004, 03:55 PM
As it was aforementioned, drop your D or Special Teams. You can pick them up on whatever bye week you have.
I have always had only one D... And unfortunately it was Dallas; I didn't want to sacrifice any of my players in week 1 to play another defense, and I didn't realize Minnesota would completely roll over them. In fact I would have WON last week's matchup had I played no defense at all. (I got -5 points for playing Dallas in my system, lost my week by 4).
I actually have 2 kickers, John Kasay and John Hall (I drafted Edinger but dropped him for Hall this week BUT Kasay, initially my #1, has his bye in week 3 and I only plan to hold 1 kicker after that. Kasay was a great kicker last year but Carolina doesn't look to have much of an offense yet, so I might end up dumping him for Hall in the long term.
I tend to agree with razorsheldon too, but that's assuming you actually HAVE two solid starting receivers. In my case, I think Dallas is a pretty solid defense and apart from weeks they play strong offensive teams, I'd be happy playing them. With wide receivers, on the other hand, I'm hanging on to quite a few in case they start turning into consistent options. I have 3 starters and 3 bench, and really the only one I would consider a true number 1 is Lav. Coles. (Others are: Javon Walker, Peter Warrick, Drew Bennett, Terry Glenn, Cedric Wilson)
Last year I believe I used 1 kicker most of the year (Kasay again), and used two defenses (TEN and MIA) up until about half-way when I traded MIA away, playing the rest ofthe season with just TEN.
srm775
09-15-2004, 03:56 PM
QB T. Brady (NE - QB)
WR S. Moss (NYJ - WR)
WR T. Glenn (Dal - WR)
RB R. Johnson (Cin - RB)
RB L. Gordon (Mia - RB)
TE A. Gates (SD - TE)
WR/RB J. McCareins (NYJ - WR)
BN A. Bryant (Dal - WR)
BN T. Jones (Chi - RB)
BN J. Walker (GB - WR)
BN P. Manning (Ind - QB)
BN Da. Clark (Ind - TE)
BN Re. Williams (Jac - WR)
BN R. Gardner (Was - WR)
BN T. Fisher (GB - RB)
K J. Brown (Sea - K)
DEF New England (NE - DEF)
BN Denver (Den - DEF)
DB A. Harris (GB - DB)
DL N. Barnett (GB - DL)
BN E. Brown (Hou - DB)
BN K. Bulluck (Ten - DL)
I wouldn't start Gordon over Jones. Gordon has too many other RB's to compete with and is mediocre at best. Jones isn't great, but will definitely get the lion's share of carries (due to A-trains nagging oblique injury).
JonDoms
09-15-2004, 06:22 PM
I need some solid help at WR.
I have a solid starter in T.O. but after that my crew drops off.
Any suggestions? I'm in a 10 Team League.
My team:
QB B. Favre (GB - QB) Chi
WR T. Owens (Phi - WR) Min
WR Ro. Williams (Det - WR) Hou
RB J. Lewis (Bal - RB) Pit
RB C. Dillon (NE - RB) @Ari
TE A. Crumpler (Atl - TE) StL
WR/TE M. Clayton (TB - WR) Sea
BN D. Staley (Pit - RB) @Bal
BN B. Franks (GB - TE) Chi
BN C. Palmer (Cin - QB) Mia
BN T. Pinkston (Phi - WR) Min
BN E. Manning (NYG - QB) Was
BN D. Hall (KC - WR) Car
K J. Elam (Den - K) @Jac
DEF Washington (Was - DEF) @NYG
BN Philadelphia (Phi - DEF) Min
I did have Charles Rogers AND Joey Galloway! Thanks pussys!
For this week my #2 will be Roy Williams as he's playing Houston and will be the main target.
My questions are:
Who will be my #3 wr?
How many points should I expect out of a 2nd or 3rd tier wr?
Given that I can play 2 WR, and 1 Flex WR/TE,
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
My analysis
Dante Hall is at Carolina, tough D, so I'm leaning on not playing him.
Michael Clayton will be the #2 or #3 option for Tampa Bay, but they are playing against Seattle.
Todd Pinkston is an interesting pick up for me. My thoughts here are, against a tough D that will double team T.O., I should consider playing him as he is the #2 go to guy. Last week he got 75 yds receiveing . I know the Eagles have Freddie Mitchell and their FB and TE also get some action due to Reid's style of spreading it around, but I still think it's worth a play.
As for D, I picked up WASH, because of several factors.
Joe Gibbs being 1,
2. Greg Williams, who used be the Bills Head coach and is a aggressive defensive coordinator. This is after reading Len Pasquarelli's article on ESPN.com.
3. They are playing the Giants this week. I had the Eagles D spank them around and now I think it's the Skins turn to spank them this week.
DietCokehead
09-15-2004, 06:53 PM
Pick 2:
D. McAllister vs. SF (remember, the hurricane could play a part in this)
R. Johnson vs. Mia
Q. Griffin vs. Jac
O. Smith vs. Phi
Support your choices. I'm leaning toward Deuce and Q-Griff, but am still waivering after last week's performance from Deuce.
bitches get stitches
09-15-2004, 07:52 PM
Im also new to Fantasy Football and was wondering how my team looked and if anyone had any suggestions for me...
Good move switching Brady in for Manning. I watched both of the Tennessee/Indianapolis games last year and Manning did not do good. Around 400 yards and 1 td in both games total. Brady might not have the big numbers he had in week one simply because I think Corey Dillon will have a bigger role in the offense this week especially against the Arizona defense.
I'd start Jones ahead of Gordon. I forget who Miami plays this week, but if they're playing against a team with no defense maybe put Gordon in your WR/RB slot. But then again Gordon is splitting carries with Minor. Gardener was Brunells favorite target in week one, and they seem to be on the same page, so you might put him in that WR/RB slot instead of Gordon.
DietCokehead Edit: Please don't quote entire posts if they're lengthy -- delete all but the pertinent information, as I did in for this one, to save on overall page length. That is all.
Anti-Hero
09-16-2004, 12:49 PM
need TE advice for this week. I have Boo Williams going against San Francisco, and Antonio Gates going against the Jets. who would you start?
Xerxes
09-16-2004, 02:50 PM
I would definitely go with Gates. Until Boo Williams starts getting touches I'd stick with Gates, who already got over 100 yards last week.
bitches get stitches
09-16-2004, 06:52 PM
Go with Gates. Boo was dropping passes all over the field and even coughed it up once. And sorry about that DCH, won't do it again.
timeforbeer
09-16-2004, 10:09 PM
Pick 2:
D. McAllister vs. SF (remember, the hurricane could play a part in this)
R. Johnson vs. Mia
Q. Griffin vs. Jac
O. Smith vs. Phi
I also like Deuce and Q; I think they're both going to see a lot of carries in the 2nd half as their teams try to sit on leads.
Everybody's salivating over the Moss-vs-Owens matchup, and I'd hate to start Onterrio and have the Vikes offensive coordinator forget about him.
Rudi's got to show me a little more (24 for 70 yds - 2.9 per carry, 1 TD, 1 fumble) before I'd start him over Deuce.
----
And here's a website that examines the starters for each game from a fantasy perspective:
Fantasy Football Matchups (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/gen?type=fantasymatchups&prov=yhoo) - they update it on Wed, I think.
Cosmo
09-16-2004, 10:30 PM
Here's one. Who would you start
Culpepper @ Philly
or
Pennington @ SD
bitches get stitches
09-17-2004, 12:34 AM
Well we all saw what Daunte did against the vaunted Dallas defense. Start Daunte.
DietCokehead
09-17-2004, 01:41 AM
Pick 2:
Hec and Vic, in their infinite poor judgement, have them rated as such:
6. McAllister
8. O. Smith
26. R. Johnson
27. Q. Griffin
That's right, Johnson and Griffin both fall after Eddie George and Ron Dayne (24 and 25). Either I'm missing something, or Hec and Vic have gone off the deep end.
Thoughts?
Chandler
09-17-2004, 03:46 AM
Hec and Vic fell off the deep end long ago. Any back at Minny isn't gonna be that high anyway, but putting Dayne ahead of QG was just plain idiotic.
I still think actually saying the words "I'll take Ron Dayne" in a fantasy draft one year ranks just below "Yeah I'll be stationed in the Azores, how bad can that be?" on my list of dumbest things I've ever said.
fleetmack
09-17-2004, 05:30 PM
so Steven Davis got hurt today.....meaning -- DeShaun Foster is in the mix now.....my 3 RB's are
Priest Holmes (vs. Carolina)
Quentin Griffin (vs. Jags)
DeShaun Foster (vs. Chiefs)
I can play 2 of them. I'm thinking the chefs (great googley-moogley) have a shitty run defense and the jags have a good one. the way Quentin ran all over them (chiefs) last week - I think it'd be best for me to go with Holmes (duh) and Foster. What do you all think?
SkiGuy
09-17-2004, 08:17 PM
[QUOTE=fleetmack] the chefs (great googley-moogley)/QUOTE]
I love this.
Brady or Bulger for QB this week, anyone?
Xerxes
09-18-2004, 06:18 PM
New England is playing the Cardinals! I'd take Brady. The Rams still haven't proven that they click yet, and Bulger is an interception waiting to happen.
Xerxes
09-20-2004, 01:37 PM
What do you guys think about this trade?
Rudi Johnson for Derek Mason? Or for Santana Moss?
I've got Rudi and 3 other solid RBs (T. Jones, A. Green, D. Foster) but I'm lacking in the WR dept (L. Coles, J. Walker, P. Warrick. D. Bennett, etc). We can start 2 RBs and 3 WRs.
I'm inclined to take the trade but I wanted to get a 2nd opinion first. Thanks in advance
razorsheldon
09-20-2004, 01:59 PM
What do you guys think about this trade?
Rudi Johnson for Derek Mason? Or for Santana Moss?
I've got Rudi and 3 other solid RBs (T. Jones, A. Green, D. Foster) but I'm lacking in the WR dept (L. Coles, J. Walker, P. Warrick. D. Bennett, etc). We can start 2 RBs and 3 WRs.
I'm inclined to take the trade but I wanted to get a 2nd opinion first. Thanks in advance
I'd aim higher. Moss and Mason won't have the seasons they had last year. I'd aim for Chad Johnson (might be able to lure him from a wary owner), Hines Ward, Terrell Owens or Torry Holt for Thomas Jones. You might be able to leverage his early sucecss to land top talent at WR. It all depends on your league.
That being said though, Rudi is under some pressure w/ Perry right behind him. If you're nervous about this, then feel free to dump him for a tier 2 receiver. I personally think Foster is a great back that will do to Davis what Brady did to Bledsoe...
fleetmack
09-20-2004, 02:08 PM
just something to think about - steven davis will be back in 4 weeks -- deshaun foster did GREAT for me this week, but don't count on him as your strong 2nd back in a few weeks. a quality RB is much better than a quality WR -- I'd hang onto rudi and try to trade the others.
bct34
09-20-2004, 05:09 PM
Ok, I have a RB situation where Corey Dillon is on a bye next week and my back up is Jerome Bettis(don't ask) Here are my best options:
1) Stick with Bettis v. Miami, he won't see the ball unless they are goalline
2) Try to pick up Dominic Rhodes off the free agent list. FYI my waiver positon is #10 out of 12 so the likelyhood of that happening is poor.
3) I have been talking trades to get Lamar Gordon. Asking price is a TE & K or TE & Raiders DST. The kicker I would give up is Jason Hansen and I have Boo Williams and Jason Whitten at TE
I have already accepted the fact that I'm fucked at #2 RB so I will be happy with 7-8 points from my reserve. Comments, suggestions, opinions?
Anti-Hero
09-20-2004, 05:17 PM
blah...
3) I have been talking trades to get Lamar Gordon. Asking price is a TE & K or TE & Raiders DST. The kicker I would give up is Jason Hansen and I have Boo Williams and Jason Whitten at TE
Being that Boo Williams didn't catch a pass this week, getting Lamar Gordon for him and Hansen is like robbing a nun. Even if Gordon doesn't do stellar things, you can likely parley him into a decent player or players down the road due to the absolute abscence of running backs in any league.
Xerxes
09-20-2004, 05:29 PM
I'd aim higher. Moss and Mason won't have the seasons they had last year. I'd aim for Chad Johnson (might be able to lure him from a wary owner), Hines Ward, Terrell Owens or Torry Holt for Thomas Jones. You might be able to leverage his early sucecss to land top talent at WR. It all depends on your league.
I offered Tginas Jones or Rudi Johnson and the guy with Mason and Moss preferred Johnson...
T.O. and Holt are unavailable. Chad Johnson is also most likely unavailable. I'm waitnig to hear back from Joe Horn's owner (though Horn fucked me at the end of last season). I'm going to talk to Hines Ward's owner; he also had Randy Moss so he might do a trade, but he also has Westbrook and Holmes and isn't in need of another RB.
I do agree that a quality RB is better than a quality WR but I've got solid RBs already and an inconsistent bunch of WRs. Even if Foster loses playing time when Davis is back, I'd still have Ahman Green and Thomas Jones. Do you guys really value Rudi a lot higher than T. Jones? I'm basically valuing them equally in my mind at the moment. I'm currently trying to hawk Aaron Stecker and I just grabbed Domonic Rhodes as well.
Chandler
09-21-2004, 03:00 AM
Well, I think it's time to put a gun to the head of my fantasy team and in the words of the Jesus, "pull the fuckin trigger till it goes click."
Before the season started I thought my team highlighted by Deuce, Trent Green, Favre, Fred Taylor, and Philly's D would be vying for the title in my league. Now, I'm sitting here mumbling like Brando about how I coulda been a contenda. Deuce is gone for 4-5 weeks. Green has no clue that anyone is on his team but Priest. Favre content to let Ahman Green do all the work. And I'm putting the rest of my season on Fred Taylor's groin. Ouch.
Oh, and Adam Vinatieri (my kicker) has more points than Favre and T. Green combined. Somebody call the Jesus.
Cosmo
09-21-2004, 08:51 AM
Right now Trent Green is on the free agent list, its only an 8 team league. Would it be worth picking him up and hoping he picks up. My other QB's are Brady and Vick, so Green would be my 3rd string, but I was thinking if he gots hot, it might be better to sit him on my bench just so no one else can have him.
My team consists of
QB
Brady
Vick
RB
Alexander
S. Davis
D. Foster
Barlow
C. Martin
Dunn
WR
C. Johnson
Roy Williams
Burress
Jimmy Smith
Moulds
TE
Clumpler
K
Josh Brown
D
Seattle
Chandler
09-21-2004, 09:44 AM
Fantasy football is about winning, pick him up. No questions asked.
Cosmo
09-21-2004, 10:18 AM
That's what I was thinking. Next question then would be who to drop? I'm waiting for Yahoo to put Davis on the IR so I can have an open spot on my bench.
Chandler
09-21-2004, 10:29 AM
Lose Dunn.
srm775
09-21-2004, 11:09 AM
Hec and Vic, in their infinite poor judgement, have them rated as such:
6. McAllister
8. O. Smith
26. R. Johnson
27. Q. Griffin
That's right, Johnson and Griffin both fall after Eddie George and Ron Dayne (24 and 25). Either I'm missing something, or Hec and Vic have gone off the deep end.
Thoughts?
Man, I wouldn't listen to anything those two nit-wits say. They can't even accurately predict game winners. The first week they were 12-4. Respectable, but it wasn't that hard. The second week they were 6-10. On the wins they did predict, they weren't even close on the score.
I wouldn't list O. Smith high, because Philly's def. should and did a pretty good job shutting down Smith. Rudi Johnson, shouldn't be listed that high, they're just wrong on that. As far as Griffin goes, remember that the first week he rushed against a really, really bad K.C. run def. Christ a quadrapalegic could get a 100 yrds against them. Facing tougher run def. is really going to show that Griffin isn't a premier back. That being said, he will do decent just because of the Denver system he is in, and should, no way in hell, be listed higher than Dayne or George. Those guys just suck and will never be decent again (or in Dayne's case at all).
Xerxes
09-21-2004, 11:48 AM
That's what I was thinking. Next question then would be who to drop? I'm waiting for Yahoo to put Davis on the IR so I can have an open spot on my bench.
You can grab him and maybe try trading him, but if you only play 1 QB per week I think you're wasting a bench spot with him. Use that spot to hold on to a WR or RB with upside (think Steven Davis, Larry Johnson, Tatum Bell, Justin Fargas, etc).
As for the IR, there is no "IR" in football like in basketball. If a team puts a player on Injured Reserve they can't come back until the next season.
Buck Privates
09-22-2004, 12:19 PM
did i just screw myself with this trade,
I let go, D. Mcallister, P. Burress, T Gonzales
for
M. Bennett, M. Pittman, R. Wayne
I have Gates to replace Gonzo, and they said Deuce was on crutches so hes gone for like 6 weeks....and Plax sucks......
bct34
09-22-2004, 12:32 PM
did i just screw myself with this trade,
I let go, D. Mcallister, P. Burress, T Gonzales
for
M. Bennett, M. Pittman, R. Wayne
I have Gates to replace Gonzo, and they said Deuce was on crutches so hes gone for like 6 weeks....and Plax sucks......
You just gave up Gonzo for two inactive RB's and a second tier receiver? I don't understand this. It seems as if you need RB's due to Deuces injury, but neither of the two you just picked are going to be playing until Oct?
Short term, you're definitely screwed. Long term.....who knows. Bennett could be a good producer once he returns, but he's still competing with 2 good back ups in Smith and Williams. Pittman is worthless. What's the rest of your roster look like?
srm775
09-22-2004, 01:19 PM
You just gave up Gonzo for two inactive RB's and a second tier receiver? I don't understand this.
Yeah, that is a really odd thing to do. Besides Gonzo being the BEST TE in football, he is also among the top receivers. He'll post close to 1000 yrds and about 8-10 TD's. You gave up on him too early. He's started off slow, but has done that the last few years.
It seems as if you need RB's due to Deuces injury, but neither of the two you just picked are going to be playing until Oct?
Bennett is for sure out week 3 against the Bears. Pittman will probably play the first game of Oct., but that doesn't help you this week.
Short term, you're definitely screwed. Long term.....who knows. Bennett could be a good producer once he returns, but he's still competing with 2 good back ups in Smith and Williams. Pittman is worthless. What's the rest of your roster look like?
Pittman is worthless (he hasn't rushed for more than 850 yrds in his career) and he had ZERO rushing TD's last year. He's the second (maybe even third) RB in the TB roster. Bennett is good and has the same explosive play-making ability that Westbrook or Portis has, but he is made of glass. Not only that, but even when he had his "career year" two years ago he only had 6 TD's where Moe Williams had 11. Factor in Smith, and you have a greatly diminished RB (fantasy-wise).
fleetmack
09-22-2004, 03:12 PM
is keenan mccardell going to hold out all year? I've got him as my 5th WR (we only use 2 per week) -- but with the byes coming up -- if it's going to be worthless to hold onto him I think I'll drop him. I know there's tons of rumors about him -- bears wanting him, tampa not negotiating with him, etc.... so my question i guess isn't "is keenan going to hold out" -- but "what would you do if keenan was on your team?"
srm775
09-22-2004, 04:59 PM
is keenan mccardell going to hold out all year? I've got him as my 5th WR (we only use 2 per week) -- but with the byes coming up -- if it's going to be worthless to hold onto him I think I'll drop him. I know there's tons of rumors about him -- bears wanting him, tampa not negotiating with him, etc.... so my question i guess isn't "is keenan going to hold out" -- but "what would you do if keenan was on your team?"
He has actually said that he would sit out all year if he had to, but that he was not going to play under his current contract. I've heard the Bears want him to, but here in Chicago there isn't much talk about it. I actually drafted him (late round) and dropped him for a player that is playing. Even if you drop him for someone that isn't very good, they are going to, right now, produce better #'s for you than someone that isn't playing. If he does get traded or released and sign with someone else, then take your chances on the waiver wire, but you're not going to see results from him right away anyway.
bct34
09-22-2004, 05:15 PM
"what would you do if keenan was on your team?"
Fantasy WR's outside of guys like Moss, Harrison are a dime a dozen. I'd drop him and find someone who is going to produce something. I don't know about your league, but mine still has a lot of solid #2, #3 guys on the free agent list. Even is Keenan does play this season, its not going to be anytime soon.
Buck Privates
09-23-2004, 10:21 AM
Pittman is worthless (he hasn't rushed for more than 850 yrds in his career) and he had ZERO rushing TD's last year. He's the second (maybe even third) RB in the TB roster. Bennett is good and has the same explosive play-making ability that Westbrook or Portis has, but he is made of glass. Not only that, but even when he had his "career year" two years ago he only had 6 TD's where Moe Williams had 11. Factor in Smith, and you have a greatly diminished RB (fantasy-wise).[/QUOTE]
you have to see the rest of my team to realize why i did this, it looks like this
pre trade
QB Donovan
RB McAllister, Dillon, Garner
WR Keyshawn, Terrell
TE Gonzo, Gates
K Vander
D Tenn
once McAllister went down my RB's are nothing but Dillon. All i read about Pittman is he is ready to go nuts when he gets back and with Garner sucking why wouldnt he just take the start? Also, Bennett may start this week and if not then next, so am i better having pittman and bennett, rather then having a useless Mcallister for 6 weeks maybe more?
Also i gave up Gonzo because i have Gates, and all signes in SD point to him being one of their best receivers. Also Gonzo is hurt now........
I might be reaching for a rationalization but i think with the trade my team went from real sucky, to not so sucky.....which is at least a step in the right direction to saving my season.
DMMaverick
09-23-2004, 11:04 AM
What is going on with him, he did great for me last year, but these first two games, he looks like a rook. WTF.
bct34
09-23-2004, 11:12 AM
What is going on with him, he did great for me last year, but these first two games, he looks like a rook. WTF.
Simple, his wide-outs aren't good, and everybody knows it. Morton would be a number 3 guy on most other teams and Kennison is just plain awful. Dante Hall is good with the ball but he's only average on routes. Plus he's pretty short. Shut down Priest and Gonzo, and the Chefs are fucked
DMMaverick
09-23-2004, 11:30 AM
Tony and Priest didn't catch all of Trent's 4000+ yards last year. Did the Cheifs lose a reciever in the offseason or something?
bct34
09-23-2004, 12:05 PM
Tony and Priest didn't catch all of Trent's 4000+ yards last year. Did the Cheifs lose a reciever in the offseason or something?
Although Green passed for 4,000 last year, the yards are pretty spread out between 7-8 guys. Gonzo and Priest were actually #1 & 2 in receptions. I think the Chiefs receivers are below average but got decent numbers last year because everybody was busy trying to shut down their 2 studs. I think so far this year, teams have been focusing more on the Chiefs receivers because they are the weak link, forcing the Chiefs to count on Priest even more so.
In my opinion thats why Green hasn't posted good numbers so far, but its only week 3, so there's a lot that can happen
fleetmack
09-24-2004, 10:41 AM
my RB's:
DeShaun Foster (bye)
Priest Holmes
Quentin Griffin...
Should I bench PH and pick up his backup or play risk and hope he plays? I won't be at a computer after today until Monday -- so I have to make my choice today.
bct34
09-24-2004, 11:07 AM
my RB's:
DeShaun Foster (bye)
Priest Holmes
Quentin Griffin...
Should I bench PH and pick up his backup or play risk and hope he plays? I won't be at a computer after today until Monday -- so I have to make my choice today.
I have pretty much the same situation as you:
Priest
Dillon (Bye)
Lamar Gordon
I am not counting on Priest playing so I picked up his back up, Blaylock. Everything I've heard about Priest indicates he will not be playing, have you heard anything different?
bitches get stitches
09-24-2004, 11:18 AM
Blaylock will get the starting nod, but as expected, Larry Johnson will get some touches as well. Just to throw a wrench in your plans though, Holmes said even though he hasn't practiced, that if he can walk he will play this Sunday.
fleetmack
09-24-2004, 12:10 PM
I have pretty much the same situation as you:
Priest
Dillon (Bye)
Lamar Gordon
I am not counting on Priest playing so I picked up his back up, Blaylock. Everything I've heard about Priest indicates he will not be playing, have you heard anything different?
i also picked up blaylock, but do you know how fucking pissed i'll be if i start peter's short black cousin quentin griffin and blaylock then holmes plays? fuck me.
did i just screw myself with this trade,
I let go, D. Mcallister, P. Burress, T Gonzales
for
M. Bennett, M. Pittman, R. Wayne
I have Gates to replace Gonzo, and they said Deuce was on crutches so hes gone for like 6 weeks....and Plax sucks......
You sure the fuck did.
TaxMan
09-26-2004, 09:25 AM
Offered this trade:
My A. Green and K. Robinson for his T. Holt and K. Barlow.
My other RBs are C. Brown, Rudi Johnson and T. Jones. Other receivers are M. Harrison, D. Stallworth, R. Wayne. I start 2 RB and 3 WR.
Scoring is pretty standard. No points for receptions.
Should I take it?
Buck Privates
09-26-2004, 04:22 PM
You sure the fuck did.
Wane with 100+ and a TD in the first half........hes probably going to get more pts then McAllister.....
It appears that I shoulda taken the Barlow for Moss or Holt trade . . .
Fuck Seattle
Sharts
09-26-2004, 06:07 PM
What the hell happened to D. Davis of Houston today? I know he left with an injury but I can't find out what it was or a time table of how long he'll be out.
help?
What the hell happened to D. Davis of Houston today? I know he left with an injury but I can't find out what it was or a time table of how long he'll be out.
help?
In case you didn't already see, looks like an ankle sprain. Unclear whether he plays on Sunday.
wfujim
09-27-2004, 08:29 PM
I'm in a 1 QB, 3WR, 2RB league. I was offered this trade. My current players are:
QB: Brady, Pennington, Brooks
RB: Deuce McAllister (hurt), Edge(mildly hurt), Barber, Kevin Jones
WR: Ward, Plax, TO, Ward, Santana Moss
Anyone?
CdrTostada
09-27-2004, 08:52 PM
I'm in a 1 QB, 3WR, 2RB league. I was offered this trade. My current players are:
QB: Brady, Pennington, Brooks
RB: Deuce McAllister (hurt), Edge(mildly hurt), Barber, Kevin Jones
WR: Ward, Plax, TO, Ward, Santana Moss
Anyone?
I wouldnt give up ward, I had coles and ended up trading him to get marshall faulk, my only good RB is Onterrio Smith and he is being suspended soon. Ward is much better.
What was really weird about week 3 is after having one of the lowest scoring teams in my leaugue my team has the highest score this week, and my defense still hasnt played, its the redskins since the patriots have a bye.
But Manning did amazing this week, and Javon Walker having one of the most amazing games of his career put me over the top, Im just a little angry I didnt start Smith, he had 100 rushin and over 100 receiving.
wfujim
09-28-2004, 07:46 AM
I wouldnt give up ward, I had coles and ended up trading him to get marshall faulk, my only good RB is Onterrio Smith and he is being suspended soon. Ward is much better.
What was really weird about week 3 is after having one of the lowest scoring teams in my leaugue my team has the highest score this week, and my defense still hasnt played, its the redskins since the patriots have a bye.
But Manning did amazing this week, and Javon Walker having one of the most amazing games of his career put me over the top, Im just a little angry I didnt start Smith, he had 100 rushin and over 100 receiving.
My problem is that Deuce is injured, and Edge is borderline injured. I have a stockpile of QBs and not alot of depth at RB, since I'd say Kevin Jones is still 3-4 weeks away from being a starter. I'm going to try to just go Martin for Pennington straight up, and see if he bites.
Buck Privates
09-28-2004, 09:53 AM
So now that Garner is out as the 3rd player on my team to go down for the season, who is the big pick up this week?
Anyone see any value in Henry (MIA RB), or Bryson, or Caldwell?
Jimmy Ice
09-28-2004, 11:43 AM
Please Help--Offered this trade.
His Quentin Griffin/Kevin Johnson for my Hines Ward/Alge Crumpler
I do need a RB, but there is no way I am doing this, however he has Jamal Lewis, who I would take and Chad Pennington.
Should I counter with Vick and Hines Ward for Lewis and Pennington?
I'm pretty deep at WR, as I have Koren Robinson, Isaac Bruce, and David Givens.
Other notables on my roster are: Warrick Dunn, Deuce McAllister.
thecousin
09-28-2004, 11:47 AM
Please Help--Offered this trade.
His Quentin Griffin/Kevin Johnson for my Hines Ward/Alge Crumpler
I do need a RB, but there is no way I am doing this, however he has Jamal Lewis, who I would take and Chad Pennington.
Should I counter with Vick and Hines Ward for those two?
I'm pretty deep at WR, as I have Koren Robinson, Isaac Bruce, and David Givens.
Other notables on my roster are: Warrick Dunn, Deuce McAllister.
take the trade, griffin will get you more on a bad day than a te going to the pro bowl. if he's dumb enough to give up lewis for vick, make the streal.
Xerxes
09-28-2004, 01:40 PM
take the trade, griffin will get you more on a bad day than a te going to the pro bowl. if he's dumb enough to give up lewis for vick, make the streal.
I disagree. Kevin Johnson is useless. I would rather have one of the few consistent WRs and a solid top 5 TE than Griffin, who might lose his job to Bell later this season.
Jimmy Ice
09-28-2004, 01:47 PM
I disagree. Kevin Johnson is useless. I would rather have one of the few consistent WRs and a solid top 5 TE than Griffin, who might lose his job to Bell later this season.
I agree with you, but do you think I should offer him Vick and Ward for Pennington and Jamal Lewis?
razorsheldon
09-28-2004, 01:54 PM
First of all, my team in a 10 person league:
QB Culpepper
RB Edge James
RB Curtis Martin
WR Chad Johnson
WR Peerless Price
RB/WR Chris Brown
TE Eric Johnson
K Sebastian Janikowski
DEF New York Giants
D Ray Lewis
Bench
QB Jeff Garcia
RB Warrick Dunn
RB Onterrio Smith
RB Domminick Rhodes
WR Nate Burleson
TE Daniel Graham
I'm about to pull the trigger on sending Dunn & Price over for Torry Holt. My reservations are:
* Isaac Bruce has been taking away a lot of Holt's production this year. Will this continue?
* I watched Holt on MNF get "sacked" last night as he was wearing a tutu in full makeup. I don't know if I want this guy on my team. How can I forget this horrible image?
bct34
09-28-2004, 01:59 PM
I agree with you, but do you think I should offer him Vick and Ward for Pennington and Jamal Lewis?
You should definitely make the offer! He'll probably reject it, but why not. He may also counter to get a third player from you, probably your top RB, but Lewis is a fantasy stud so that exchange would still put you on top.
SkiGuy
09-28-2004, 02:29 PM
Please Help--Offered this trade.
His Quentin Griffin/Kevin Johnson for my Hines Ward/Alge Crumpler
I do need a RB, but there is no way I am doing this, however he has Jamal Lewis, who I would take and Chad Pennington.
Keep Crumpler, when he is on, he racks up lots of fantasy points. I only wish I had used him more during the first two weeks.
JonDoms
09-28-2004, 02:59 PM
Who do I play this week?
Corey Dillon @ BUFF
or
Deuce Staley vs CIN
Brandon Stokey @ JAC
or
Antwaan Randal El vs CIN
I know Stokley had a huge weekend, but how many weekends does he have like that? It's the same thing with Antwaan, he's been spotty too. But he is getting more touches with Rothlesberger.
Deuce or Corey? They both have yet found the end zone this year.
But Dillon would probably get a TD before Deuce...right..right????
WillyDuer
09-28-2004, 03:37 PM
My running backs sucked to begin with, and now they're even worse with Garner out for the year. (I wasn't happy with the RB variety at picks 10 and 15 so I got Barlow and took Randy Moss, then settled for Garner later). For now, my #2 back is Ty Wheatley. He had a good week last week and seems to have set himself in as the #1 in Oakland, but I don't trust him as anything more than a 3rd stringer.
This week Moss is off so my lead WR is Javon Walker, who carried me to victory last week.
Someone else has 2 strong RBs but they both hit their byes this week and next. His tradesheet has Roy Williams and Lee Suggs up for grabs asking for RBs. I think Suggs has a pretty big upside, and could possibly contribute starting this week. I'm considering a semi large trade offer of Javon Walker and Ty Wheatley for Roy Williams and Lee Suggs - I figure I'll never get more for Walker than I could right now, and Williams will be more consistently good. Is my team ultimately better off if I make that trade?
Brady/McNair
Barlow
Suggs
Moss
Williams
Heap/random TE
or Brady/McNair
Barlow
Wheatley
Moss
Walker
Heap/random
tough call. I suspect he'd make the trade if I offered it. His RB need is immediate and Wheatley would help him more than Suggs. But would it improve my team?
lewdogg21
09-28-2004, 03:44 PM
Who do I play this week?
Corey Dillon @ BUFF
or
Deuce Staley vs CIN
Brandon Stokey @ JAC
or
Antwaan Randal El vs CIN
I know Stokley had a huge weekend, but how many weekends does he have like that? It's the same thing with Antwaan, he's been spotty too. But he is getting more touches with Rothlesberger.
Deuce or Corey? They both have yet found the end zone this year.
But Dillon would probably get a TD before Deuce...right..right????
Play dillion. Remember pittsburgh is still using a rookie qb and when they get on the goal line deuce gets sub'd out. Deuce could have a big day in terms of yardage but TD's are worth 6 where I come from. Take Antwaan Randal El over Stokley. Jacksonville has owned every team including the towel boy so far this year. Expect them to hold the colts offense to below last weeks numbers easily. Maybe antwaan randle el throws a td pass to deuce and you send me an explicit filled pm. It's all good baby!
SkiGuy
09-28-2004, 04:46 PM
Play dillion.
Ditto in my opinion. He has a lot more in him than he has been showing.
Godfather of Soul
09-29-2004, 05:15 PM
Ditto in my opinion. He has a lot more in him than he has been showing.
Cincy's Run D is for shit though. Goal line work may be irrelevant if Staley can take one in from outside the 20, which against Cincy is as hard as it sounds. Not to mention that if your league gives pts for catches by an RB, Dillon will get less action there than Staley.
lewdogg21
09-29-2004, 05:17 PM
Cincy's Run D is for shit though. Goal line work may be irrelevant if Staley can take one in from outside the 20, which against Cincy is as hard as it sounds. Not to mention that if your league gives pts for catches by an RB, Dillon will get less action there than Staley.
I can't argue with that. But if I'm Marvin Lewis I've got 8 guys in the box all damn afternoon. I want to make Ben (Insert long unspellable name here) beat me in his 2nd NFL start.
Godfather of Soul
09-29-2004, 05:51 PM
I can't argue with that. But if I'm Marvin Lewis I've got 8 guys in the box all damn afternoon. I want to make Ben (Insert long unspellable name here) beat me in his 2nd NFL start.
Touche. But he can/and will if Marv tries that (no I don't have him - or Staley- on my team and I am not from Pitt) through the use of short drops and short/intermiediate routes which can burn up a stacked front and most blitz packages. Plus, with the Steelers you never have to entertain the risk they will go five wide for entire series (see, e.g, the Pats first game this year)
Is it worth dropping Antonio Bryant to get Plaxico Buress?
Godfather of Soul
09-29-2004, 06:19 PM
Depending on scoring blah fucking blah. All that shit aside, I like Bryant in this battle. Every year (this and last, at least) someone in a league gets a hard-on for Plax, thinking "all that talent, the guy has GOT to turn the clock back to 02-03."
He is a fucking tease. They could throw the ball 40 times and he would get maybe 10 targets, and drop 2-3 of them. Pitt is back to the "run first" philosophy and when in doubt, they will look to Hines Ward (who is a bad-ass) and Staley 1st and 2nd, respectively. This year we thought he would be different b/c of a contract year - nope.
Dallas's running game is a joke and their D is not as good as last year. Depsite Parcell's preference to win with running and D, the talent is not there and the aged one will have to put it up quite a bit. Bryant will get his share of the #'s, after Meshawn and before Terry Glenn, it would seem. Do not expect consistency (no better than WR #4 type numbers), but I lean slightly towards Bryant here. If this is a keeper league, it may even out a bit as Plax may be in a better situation next year.
orrrrrr....
I could drop bryant for ronald curry. thoughts on the new qb situation in Raiderland?
Godfather of Soul
09-30-2004, 09:40 AM
These are good-ass questions.
Collins, though as pure of a cementhead as you will find in the league, will make the play action work pheonomenally. He loves to go downfield (second in the NFL last year for long - +20 yd attempts, if memory serves), making Porter and Curry both good options. I would rather have Porter (obviously via trade, if Curry is who you're focusing on I would imagine Porter is already taken) but Curry may be a good option. He is certainly looked to more often than Rice.
These guys are all about even. Have you looked at remaining Strength of Schedule?
DAL - average SOS (for WR) is 18.5, OAK is 18.5, so that is a wash (league avg is 18.8 rating).
Lack of running game in DAL. I will take Ty W., Fargas and Amos over George, Julius (inj) and R. Lee anyday.
OAK faces more high scoring teams - division rivals.
Targets (targets/Rec/yds/tds):
Bryant, A 21 14 230 0
Curry, R 11 7 120 2
All things said, I would give a very slight edge to Curry as he is a more frequent red zone target and Bryant is more of a home run threat.
Alright, who I need three of four from this group of no-talent ass-clowns:
R. Caldwell
L. Fitzgerald
R. Curry
R. McMichael
Sharts
09-30-2004, 11:20 AM
Alright, who I need three of four from this group of no-talent ass-clowns:
R. Caldwell
L. Fitzgerald
R. Curry
R. McMichael
L. Fitzgerald
R. Curry
R. McMichael
Also, I feel your pain. I have to start Curry this week, too. No-talent ass-clows make up my entire receiving core minus Joe Horn.
I feel your pain.
No you don't. This is my receiving corps. I spent all my money on QB and RBs, and then S. Smith broke his leg. Did I mention that I'm also planning on playing Jonathan Wells for injured Davis, and Kurt Warner while Culpepper is on bye.
The only player on my team this week with the <i>potential</i> to score 15 points is Kevan-friggin-Barlow.
I may as well hand over my $100 right now.
Godfather of Soul
09-30-2004, 12:13 PM
L. Fitzgerald
R. Curry
R. McMichael
Also, I feel your pain. I have to start Curry this week, too. No-talent ass-clows make up my entire receiving core minus Joe Horn.
Concur with Sharts, and that fuckin sucks re: injuries.
Some seasons go to shit despite our best efforts. In one league I had Ricky the Dope Field as one of two keepers.
bitches get stitches
10-01-2004, 06:13 PM
I've got to play as my second running back, Thomas Jones vs the Philly D, or Tiki Barber vs the Packer D. I've got Tiki in there right now simply because it's not against the Philly D, and as a plus he hasn't fumbled this year. However, Grossman is out for the year, and they'll most likely rely on Jones even more.
Does anyone know who is fourth on the Vikes depth chart? With Onterrio Smith, Moe Williams, and Michael Bennett likely out this week, one of them will get the start, and possibly some decent yardage, though I'd expect Culpepper to throw more to Moss this week.
Does anyone know who is fourth on the Vikes depth chart? With Onterrio Smith, Moe Williams, and Michael Bennett likely out this week, one of them will get the start, and possibly some decent yardage, though I'd expect Culpepper to throw more to Moss this week.
Oct 5 Vikings running back Onterrio Smith officially dropped the appeal of his suspension Tuesday and will miss the next four games. Smith was scheduled to have his appeal heard on Wednesday, but decided to go ahead with the suspension rather than drag it out any longer. The league announced his suspension in late August for a repeat violation of their substance abuse policy.
Views: Onterrio will be eligible to play again November 8 against the Colts on Monday night. Starting running back Michael Bennett should be back by then, but after having surgery to repair the torn meniscus in his right knee on Monday, it's hardly guaranteed. In the meantime, Moe Williams, who's nursing a calf strain, and rookie Mewelde Moore will carry the Vikings' running game. Both Williams and Moore should be hot pickups in fantasy leagues this week.
Time for the weekly "help PWJ with his lineup" game.
Current standing: 5-3, second in my division (one game out), top overall wildcard team (and tied for third overall).
Culpepper, Daunte QB MIN @HOU 4 32.3 25 ActiveReserve 100 77
Barlow, Kevan RB SF ARI 7 10.2 13 ActiveReserve 100 88
Wells, Jonathan RB HOU MIN 7 5.8 3 ActiveReserve 47 20
Caldwell, Reche WR SD JAC 10 11.8 6 ActiveReserve 87 52
Curry, Ronald WR OAK @IND 10 7.0 3 ActiveReserve 50 24
McMichael, Randy TE MIA @NE 10 8.0 6 ActiveReserve 86 74
Kaeding, Nate K SD JAC 10 7.8 n/a ActiveReserve 26 17
Falcons, DST DST ATL DET 9 18.0 12 ActiveReserve 90 71
Davis, Domanick RB HOU MIN 7 9.2 8 ActiveReserve 95 30
Smith, Onterrio RB MIN @HOU 4 14.7 8 ActiveReserve 82 4
Fitzgerald, Larry WR ARI @SF 6 4.8 6 ActiveReserve 90 43
Hymes, Randy WR BAL @WAS 6 7.2 n/a ActiveReserve 26 11
Vanderjagt, Mike K IND OAK 6 7.2 5 ActiveReserve 98 71
Panthers, DST DST CAR @DEN 3 4.7 9 ActiveReserve 88 54
Xerxes
10-07-2004, 02:07 PM
How can you be 5-3 after 4 weeks?
You can play 3 RBs right? can you pick up another RB from free agency? You must be able to find a RB that can outperform McMichael or Curry.
Otherwise your lineup looks good given your total roster.
How can you be 5-3 after 4 weeks?
You can play 3 RBs right? can you pick up another RB from free agency? You must be able to find a RB that can outperform McMichael or Curry.
Otherwise your lineup looks good given your total roster.
We play two teams a week.
We can play 3RBs. But because we don't have to play a TE, RBs are rare commodities. Honestly, I don't think any of them have more than a total of 16 fantasy points this year.
What do you think about Hymes? Would he be a good sub for McMichael or Curry.
Xerxes
10-07-2004, 04:13 PM
Ah okay. That's kinda cool how you play 2 teams at once. Is this done through CBS or any other online site or is it manually run by some guy with excel and way too much free time?
I really don't like any of 'em when it comes to the 3 you mentioned. I'd stray away from mcmichael this week though just because they're playing New England. Hymes is probably a bigger target than Curry in terms of 1st/2nd/3rd option in respective offenses but you might want a second opinion as I didn't watch any of the above teams play this past week and don't feel like looking up stats at the moment.
Good luck!
Ah okay. That's kinda cool how you play 2 teams at once. Is this done through CBS or any other online site or is it manually run by some guy with excel and way too much free time?
Yeah, its on CBS Sportsline. IN the last 2 weeks pre-playoffs we play 3 games, including one game against everyone in our division. minimizes the risk of getting screwed by going up against a team that has a freakishly good weekend. Kinda cool.
I just have to bide my time 'til Onterrio Smith comes back, assuming Bennett stays injured, which isn't a ridiculous assumption. Fucking Steve Smith (my 1st WR pick). The only change I might make is Hymes for McMichael. We'll see.
Godfather of Soul
10-08-2004, 10:35 AM
Hymes is the go-to guy in that "passing offense" - not a bad option as a low WR.
Xerxes
10-08-2004, 02:00 PM
Yeah, its on CBS Sportsline. IN the last 2 weeks pre-playoffs we play 3 games, including one game against everyone in our division. minimizes the risk of getting screwed by going up against a team that has a freakishly good weekend. Kinda cool.
Nice. That is very nice. I had a freakishly good week last year, only to lose to another guy with an even freakishly better week. I missed the playoffs by 1 win.
I'm running this league so I might move from Yahoo to CBS next year and try that multi-opponent system; sounds very cool in fact.
razorsheldon
10-08-2004, 04:50 PM
Nice. That is very nice. I had a freakishly good week last year, only to lose to another guy with an even freakishly better week. I missed the playoffs by 1 win.
I'm running this league so I might move from Yahoo to CBS next year and try that multi-opponent system; sounds very cool in fact.
No shit. I'm tied for last (1-3) but w/ the most total points in my Yahoo! league.
I'd play Hymes this week as well, but try to get Burress from a wary owner (I'm pretty sure you don't already have him). Guys in both my leagues dropped him and I scooped him up. He'll definitely do better than McMichael.
Amanda
10-08-2004, 11:40 PM
I'd love some input on this, should any of you feel generous. My starting QB is Michael Vick. During my draft, I picked him up thinking I'd staged quite the coup. Yeah. Not so much. Last week he got me 3 points, the week before he got me 2. This week I dropped Brad Johnson and picked up Brees. I'm wondering how many more opportunities I should give Vick before I say fuck his potential and start the guy who might give me enough points to win games.
I'm sure there are other people here who drafted Vick, thinking he'd be your fulltime starter. What have you guys done with him at this point?
Hawaiian Samurai
10-09-2004, 02:13 AM
I'm wondering how many more opportunities I should give Vick before I say fuck his potential and start the guy who might give me enough points to win games.
I'm sure there are other people here who drafted Vick, thinking he'd be your fulltime starter. What have you guys done with him at this point?
First of all, I avoid Vick like the plague. He may be talented and all, but the numbers he's put up thus far have added up to precisely dick. I can't understand why people get on his nuts. Plus there's the fact that he's an injury risk because he thinks he's a running back with a strong arm, and an inaccurate one at that.
Anyway, who do you have in your free agent pool, and who's on your team? If Drew Brees is your best option, I'd just suck it up with Vick and hope for the best.
Starter questions:
Eddie George or Amos Zeroue (yea, he is starting)
Peerless Price or David Patten
Cosmo
10-09-2004, 09:23 PM
Another starter question. Vick or Brady? Brady has been great to me this season, but Vick is at home against the Lions. Their defense is a little suspect to begin with, and they've only won 1 road game in the past three years.
TheJeff
10-12-2004, 07:32 AM
Situation:
12 team league
3-2, 3rd place
1st in points
We start QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR/RB Flex, TE, K, D
My roster:
Peyton Manning, Jake Plummer
Ahman Green, Curtis Martin, Chris Brown, Kevin Jones, Najeh Davenport
David Givens, Reggie Wayne, Peerless Price, Ron Curry, Justin McCareins
Marcus Pollard, Ernie Conwell
Mike Vanderjagt
Raven D
Question:
The Colts have their bye this upcoming week. Should I try to trade Plummer now to get a slight upgrade at QB and then unload that QB to improve at WR/TE? Or should I hold on to Plummer and then make such a trade? Or do you have any other suggestions along those lines?
Xerxes
10-12-2004, 06:42 PM
Another starter question. Vick or Brady? Brady has been great to me this season, but Vick is at home against the Lions. Their defense is a little suspect to begin with, and they've only won 1 road game in the past three years.
I hope you picked Brady...
The Colts have their bye this upcoming week. Should I try to trade Plummer now to get a slight upgrade at QB and then unload that QB to improve at WR/TE? Or should I hold on to Plummer and then make such a trade? Or do you have any other suggestions along those lines?
Depending on if people are really hurting for QBs or not, it might be hard to get much in return for Plummer. I ended up dropping him early in the season and don't regret it. Looking at this week, Oakland is not a bad matchup. You might also want to consider Mark Brunell if he's available, as Washington plays Chicago...
Your league might be different, but I really wouldn't get your hopes up about making improvements using Plummer. There might be some thinning since your league has 12 teams (mine has 10). You could look at your opponents rosters and see when their start QBs are coming up for Byes and who their backups are and who those backups play...
Time for my question: Out of these WRs, pick 2 or 3 to keep and why. I don't care who they're playing this week, I'm just talking about consistency this season.
Andre Davis
Ronald Curry
Terry Glenn
Marty Booker
Derick Armstrong (1 week wonder? or good potential to be a go-to guy?)
Az Hakim
Bobby Engram (#3 WR but with Koren dropping passes, there should be plenty of looks to go around, right?)
loathing
10-17-2004, 01:46 PM
I benched Brady (because of his reciever problems) for Leftwich.
Things not going so well.
bct34
10-20-2004, 12:13 PM
Big game this week, playing #1 guy in my league and sitting at 3-2(league started late) and tied for the wild card spot right now. Can't decide on starters:
QB:
Tom Brady vs. overrated? Jets
or
Jake Plummer vs. shitty Bengals D
These 2 guys have almost identical fantasy numbers this year. Brady is more consistent but Plummer is playing a worse defense.
WR, I can start 2 players:
Keyshawn vs. Packers
Reggie Wayne vs. Jacksonville
Michael Clayton vs. Chicago
Ashley Lelie vs. Cinncy